Post by Misphinxterator on Dec 24, 2009 0:01:11 GMT -5
[23:06:15] <Zyph> i would have laughed but.. i didnt
[23:07:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Step one to seeming like a cool person is to laugh at anything that is supposed to be funny
[23:08:12] <Zyph> do I even want to be a "cool" person? not really
[23:08:12] <Twi> Wearing sunglasses at all times is SUPERCOOl
[23:08:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> you're jumping ahead, Twi
[23:08:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's step 4
[23:08:31] <Twi> Oh sorry
[23:08:34] <Matilda> Yeah, this ain't a speed run.
[23:08:38] <Matilda> No sequence-breaking.
[23:08:42] <Twi> Sorry I'm just that hardcore
[23:08:51] <Matilda> Well to hell with your hardcore, this is caketown.
[23:08:57] <Zyph> what about regular glasses?
[23:08:57] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> well, if you're speed-running, the proper path would be 1-3-6, not 1-4
[23:09:05] <Twi> Sight is totally square
[23:09:14] <Matilda> Touche Cheese
[23:09:28] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> If you go 1-4, you end up with 1-4-5, you see
[23:09:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> and then you might miss the window to 1-4-5-8
[23:09:41] <Twi> But with 1-4-5, you can backtrack to 3-7 right away
[23:09:52] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I guess
[23:10:04] <Twi> then 8 will be right there too
[23:10:07] <Matilda> Backtrack? BACKTRACK!? Who needs to backtrack!?
[23:10:08] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but I always thought it was better to go 1-3-6-8
[23:10:15] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's safer than 1-4-5-8
[23:10:17] <Matilda> You don't need the items from 3 or 7 to win, you loser.
[23:10:26] <Twi> nah 5 and 7 would be useful
[23:10:29] <Twi> Especially 5
[23:10:33] <Twi> backwards hat? Need
[23:10:36] <Matilda> Pssh, you -would- need 5.
[23:10:47] <Twi> To be cool? Yeah you need 5 or you're just posing
[23:10:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> yeah, -you- would need 5
[23:10:53] <Twi> You'd have to go to 10!
[23:10:54] <Zyph> kweh?
[23:10:55] <Twi> Noone does 10
[23:11:01] <Twi> 10 is lame
[23:11:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I've done 10
[23:11:07] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 10 is not lame
[23:11:11] <Twi> 10 is so lame!
[23:11:16] <Matilda> I skip 10 because I'm hardcore.
[23:11:18] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You've never done 10; you wouldn't know
[23:11:21] <Twi> So much easier to get 5 and go to 12
[23:11:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Oh come on, 10 is cool
[23:11:27] <Twi> I've done 10 before it's not cool
[23:11:30] <Twi> I had to restart
[23:11:35] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> If you go 10, you can go to 13
[23:11:38] <Twi> And did the 5-7-12 way
[23:11:45] <Twi> 13 is ok, but it's not worth 10
[23:11:46] <Matilda> Am I the only one who goes through 11?
[23:11:48] <Zyph> 7 8 9?
[23:11:56] <Matilda> 11 is way faster.
[23:12:00] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Nah, Matilda, I go through there too
[23:12:06] <Matilda> Lets you skip right to 15.
[23:12:09] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but only when I'm in a completionist run
[23:12:22] <Twi> 11 seems a bit too softcore for it, especially when you miss 14
[23:12:29] <Twi> miss 11 and 15, 14 is pretty cool
[23:12:38] <Matilda> Hey, it's about speed, not hardcore.
[23:12:52] <Twi> Dude if you want to do 19 right you gotta be hardcore
[23:12:58] <Twi> Don't even try to do 20 without 19
[23:13:02] <Matilda> Pssh I always do 19 right.
[23:13:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Guys, the reason I take 1-3-6 is because in the long run, it takes you to 10 and 13 and unless you do 3, you can't jump from 13 to 27
[23:13:12] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I forgot to mention
[23:13:13] <Twi> Whatever you must miss 19b
[23:13:19] <Matilda> Wait seriously? You can't? Dangit!
[23:13:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Nope
[23:13:30] <Zyph>
[23:13:37] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's why, always 6-8-10-13
[23:13:40] <Twi> but you miss all the stuff in 13 - 27
[23:13:45] <Twi> yeah 27 is amazing
[23:13:49] <Matilda> Yeah, there's good stuff in there.
[23:13:54] <Twi> but you can do it with a longer way
[23:13:59] <Matilda> I'm pretty sure you get a triple jump somewhere in there.
[23:14:05] <Twi> 18 I think
[23:14:09] <Matilda> Yeah, that's right.
[23:14:14] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, I never thought I had to use it
[23:14:17] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I mean it's cool
[23:14:26] <Twi> 24 but you don't go there
[23:14:29] <Matilda> Yeah, you don't need it, but it certainly helps.
[23:14:36] <Twi> gets you from 24 -29
[23:14:45] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But you get the x2 multiplier in 29, so you never have to worry about odds ever again if you don't want to
[23:14:54] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> which is nice because then I don't have to deal with 33
[23:15:01] <Matilda> What's wrong with 33?
[23:15:04] <Matilda> I like 33.
[23:15:06] <Twi> 33 is lame man
[23:15:08] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 33 is just, ick
[23:15:12] <Twi> Just do 31-32
[23:15:13] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I mean, 33 is like Tubular of SMW
[23:15:16] <Matilda> Oh come on, 33 is fine.
[23:15:16] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 33 is NOT cool.
[23:15:24] <Twi> it just goes on forever
[23:15:26] <Matilda> You just gotta get the rhythm right.
[23:15:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's too much work
[23:15:44] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You lose so much time doing 33
[23:15:49] <Twi> Lose hardcore
[23:15:54] <Matilda> Yeah, when you don't know how to do it!
[23:16:08] <Twi> and you can just do 36 and it gives you 33 with less work
[23:16:11] <Twi> sure you have to do 34
[23:16:14] <Twi> But that's easy
[23:16:15] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> yeah
[23:16:26] <Matilda> We can all agree there.
[23:16:30] <Twi> Aye
[23:16:39] <Zyph>
[23:16:41] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 34 is a cinch
[23:17:08] <Twi> the final level 50 though
[23:17:11] <Twi> Damn that's hard
[23:17:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> See, that's why I go through 3 and 6, Twi
[23:17:27] <Twi> I never do it without at least 44
[23:17:28] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Level 50 isn't the end
[23:17:36] <Matilda> ... wat? There's more than 50?
[23:17:38] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:17:40] <Twi> No way
[23:17:48] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Didn't you guys hear about the expansion pack?
[23:17:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Maybe that's why you guys are going through 4
[23:17:55] <Twi> Oh that doens't count
[23:18:00] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Oh it so does
[23:18:12] <Twi> the the extra 20? So lame
[23:18:12] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> They go up to 117 now
[23:18:13] <Matilda> That's optional content man.
[23:18:20] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's worth it
[23:18:23] <Twi> Oh there's a 3rd expansion?
[23:18:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:18:31] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The third expansion is where it's at
[23:18:33] <Twi> I saw the 2nd with the exxtra 20
[23:18:37] <Twi> Man those sucked!
[23:18:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Those were okay
[23:18:45] <Matilda> I didn't get those.
[23:18:46] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I liked number 67
[23:18:48] <Twi> No they were so easy and so pointless
[23:18:53] <Twi> and level 69 was the worst
[23:18:55] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 67 was the hardest
[23:18:56] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> ugh
[23:18:59] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Don't remind me
[23:19:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I hate 69 with a burning passion
[23:19:09] <Zyph> why?
[23:19:12] <Twi> And the reward??
[23:19:17] <Twi> Who needs that!
[23:19:24] <Twi> that's like minus hardcore
[23:19:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, 69 really sucks itself
[23:19:39] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The moment I got to 71 I knew the third expansion pack was worth it though
[23:19:44] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's worth going through 50-70
[23:19:56] <Twi> really?
[23:19:59] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> yeah
[23:20:11] <Twi> I found the quickest path going only 6 levels but you HAVE to do 69
[23:20:13] <Matilda> Sounds like I have an expansion pack to pick up.
[23:20:14] <Twi> And I don't want to again
[23:21:09] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Which path did you take?
[23:21:34] <Twi> 51-56-57-60-65-69
[23:21:39] <Twi> I didn't have to do 70
[23:21:43] <Twi> Which was awesome
[23:21:46] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Eh
[23:21:51] <Twi> but then 69
[23:21:52] <Twi> ugh
[23:22:10] <Twi> Only because 65 gives you that extra item in 69
[23:22:16] <Matilda> I'm feeling adventurous. I might just go through every path.
[23:22:18] <Twi> which is very useful but it's in a worse place
[23:22:24] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You can get there by 51-68-57-70
[23:22:24] <Twi> every path are you mad?
[23:22:33] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It looks like you're going back but it's only a trick
[23:22:34] <Twi> Even with the first 50 you'd be at it forever!
[23:22:39] <Matilda> I got max gamer score on Mega Man 9. OF COURSE I'M MAD.
[23:22:47] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, if you get every single one you get a super special mosaic of cooldom
[23:22:48] <Twi> Aww man what? There's a backtrack that big?
[23:22:52] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:22:56] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I didn't know what they were thinking
[23:22:58] <Twi> I mean the start backtracks you 2 but 11?
[23:22:59] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> When I saw it, I thought wtf?
[23:22:59] <Twi> That's mean
[23:23:04] <Matilda> What, are you serious? What is this, Metroid?!
[23:23:12] <Twi> I know dude
[23:23:23] <Twi> What's the 70 item?
[23:23:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, see, you have to do 68 in a certain way
[23:23:36] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Let me try to remember
[23:23:48] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I think it's a pen
[23:23:55] <Twi> what kind?
[23:24:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I don't know, some mightier kind
[23:24:07] <Twi> the one with the naked lady when you turn it upsidedown?
[23:24:12] <Twi> Because thats hardcore
[23:24:24] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's 60
[23:24:31] <Matilda> I thought that was only a limited-edition item?
[23:24:33] <Twi> Oh yeah
[23:24:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's the one that extends and hits people in the face and doubles as a walking stick
[23:24:43] <Twi> Nah that 60 pen is good
[23:24:46] <Matilda> Last time I trust the GameFAQs board.
[23:24:47] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's 70
[23:24:53] <Twi> That's pretty cool
[23:25:01] <Twi> I should give 71 - 117 a try
[23:25:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It was, Matilda
[23:25:08] <Matilda> That's crazy man.
[23:25:10] <Twi> But I gotta play again I restarted after a crash
[23:25:14] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But then they made a non-limited version
[23:25:32] <Matilda> Well that's good. I mean, I got into it late, so I missed all the goods.
[23:25:36] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's not as cool because the girl has a leaf on her right nipple in the non-limited one
[23:25:37] <Twi> Wait
[23:25:42] <Twi> I just thought that part in 49
[23:25:43] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but it's still pretty cool
[23:25:55] <Twi> with the expansion, that'd take you right to 68 wouldn't it?
[23:25:59] <Matilda> Leaf, nipple, I give no crap. It's still an item.
[23:26:03] <Twi> it seemed useless at first
[23:26:19] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's a huge jump though
[23:26:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I think there's like two steps before it
[23:26:36] <Twi> I know but it'd work right? I think you'd have to backtrack
[23:26:39] <Matilda> Wait, so there's a point to that jump?
[23:26:42] <Twi> But you'd get the 68 item early
[23:27:16] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, having 68 is pretty cool
[23:27:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but then you're at risk of wearing out 68 early
[23:27:37] <Twi> it'd make 50 easy
[23:27:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> unless you're überconservative and know how to use it
[23:27:50] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> everyone does that, though and then they miss the jump to 73
[23:28:01] <Twi> Ah i never had 73
[23:28:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's because you never played the 71-117 expansion
[23:28:15] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's where it's at
[23:28:20] <Twi> I know I must do though
[23:28:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> yeah
[23:28:58] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I hear there's a glitch at 7 that takes you to -1 and then gets you stuck in 69
[23:29:07] <Twi> Oh god
[23:29:10] <Twi> And I do 7
[23:29:20] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> -1 isn't cool
[23:29:30] <Twi> Not come across it though
[23:29:31] <Matilda> Seems like an intentional reference, if you ask me.
[23:29:42] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Oh yeah?
[23:29:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Maybe it's just a trap
[23:30:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Like that game where you lose if you pull the plant instead of scooping it out
[23:30:26] <Matilda> I hated that trap.
[23:30:33] <Twi> Lame trap
[23:30:56] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, I don't like 69.
[23:31:52] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> We should all co-op 71-117 sometime
[23:32:01] <Twi> They co-oped it?
[23:32:08] <Twi> How do they sort out loot?
[23:32:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, that's one of the new features.
[23:32:17] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> They give out three times the amount
[23:32:23] <Twi> Cool
[23:32:26] <Matilda> ... nice!
[23:32:37] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But everything's marked "co-op-ol", but it's still cool
[23:32:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Being a team is cool
[23:32:59] <Twi> Hope there's customisation
[23:33:05] <Twi> being the same is cool
[23:33:08] <Twi> uncool
[23:33:18] <Gem> Twi, YOU'RE uncool, man.
[23:33:20] <Matilda> There better be customisation.
[23:33:29] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You can have red, green or yellow.
[23:33:33] <Twi> Gem you've not played this game!
[23:33:36] <Matilda> Calling green
[23:33:37] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I hope you're not-colorblind
[23:33:40] <Twi> Calling red
[23:33:47] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Or they'll all look the same to you
[23:33:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I'll take yellow.
[23:34:00] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yellow complements my nice blue rod anyway
[23:34:08] <Twi> you took the blue one?
[23:34:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah.
[23:34:23] <Twi> man I always take the red rod
[23:34:27] <Matilda> The rod eh? I took the book.
[23:34:32] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Ew, red
[23:34:42] <Twi> gives you access to the extra part of 43
[23:34:51] <Twi> which gives you the supershades
[23:35:01] <Matilda> Crap you need the rod for that?
[23:35:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:35:06] <Twi> the red one yeah
[23:35:13] <Twi> the blue one gives you...something else
[23:35:16] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The blue one gives you the shades with the lines through it
[23:35:18] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The Kanye West shades
[23:35:22] <Twi> Ah pfft
[23:35:25] <Twi> don't want them
[23:35:43] <Matilda> Pfffbahaha, it's like Navi all over again.
[23:35:50] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, Twi, I'm going to let you finish but the Kanye West shades are the best all time.
[23:35:56] <Twi> FFFFFFF4
[23:36:07] <Matilda> "HEY! HEY! I'MMA LET YOU GO ON, BUT AREA 44 HAD THE BEST ITEM OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!!!"
[23:36:16] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Oh yeah
[23:36:18] <Twi> Oh another question!
[23:36:21] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You can keep your supershades
[23:36:22] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> What's up, Twi
[23:36:24] <Twi> Which cape in 37?
[23:36:41] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> indigo
[23:37:01] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The indigo cape
[23:37:04] <Twi> Hmm that's alright
[23:37:09] <Twi> I went orange
[23:37:10] <Matilda> I took the Priest mantle. The healing bonus is nice.
[23:37:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Why, don't tell me you pick the—oh god
[23:37:19] <Twi> Man don't be hating
[23:37:27] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Why orange?
[23:37:28] <Twi> Orange + supershades
[23:37:32] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The Priest mantle is cool, Matilda
[23:37:40] <Matilda> Dang straight B)
[23:37:44] <Lazo> C3i lance is here
[23:37:49] <Lazo> All of you are losers
[23:38:30] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Okay, Orange + supershades, fine
[23:38:38] <Matilda> You just can't appreciate a game of this caliber.
[23:38:40] <Twi> Gotta have that for the DUDE cannon
[23:38:48] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but Indigo + Kanye West shades is butt-kicking
[23:39:07] <Twi> That's more for short bursts
[23:39:16] <Twi> Orange + supershades man
[23:39:19] <Twi> Constant fire
[23:39:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I don't think you appreciate the value of shortbursts
[23:39:42] <Twi> it's ok but how do you do 47?
[23:39:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I've gone constant fire before. It's okay if you're being all casual
[23:40:14] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But short bursts is really better when it comes down to it
[23:40:19] <Twi> gotta do that way to get the 47 sneakers
[23:40:41] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, I get the 47 steel toe boots
[23:40:48] <Twi> Haha
[23:40:53] <Twi> That's so rubbish
[23:40:57] <Matilda> Steel toes? Really?
[23:41:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> At least it's not the Crocs you get with the mantle
[23:41:08] <Twi> Ahahaha
[23:41:14] <Twi> sneakers man
[23:41:14] <Matilda> Hey those crocs are awesome don't be hatin'.
[23:41:28] <Twi> Crocs are ok but sod all to what I want
[23:41:32] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Sneakers are good if you're going to be sneaking
[23:41:39] <Twi> Yeah man
[23:41:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But with steel toes you can plow your way to 70
[23:41:51] <Twi> That jump in 66?
[23:41:55] <Twi> No way with the steel toes
[23:41:58] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That gigantic jump, yeah
[23:42:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> No, I've done it before
[23:42:05] <Twi> Lies
[23:42:10] <Matilda> You people with your expansion.
[23:42:13] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You need to time it much earlier
[23:42:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> People always do it worng because they think it's the same as doing it with sneakers
[23:42:28] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> wrong
[23:42:34] <Twi> Mat think of the jump in 28 but bigger with steel toe
[23:42:45] <Matilda> ... pfffbahahaha, good luck!
[23:42:55] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You don't need luck!
[23:43:02] <Twi> Nah man you must be lying
[23:43:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Seriously, try it
[23:43:13] <Twi> However you do that jump you'll fail
[23:43:17] <Twi> You must've gotten something else
[23:43:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> No, they're steel toe
[23:43:31] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> There's more than one kind of steel toe
[23:43:33] <Twi> no with the steel toe
[23:43:49] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The steel toe in 37, yes, that's impossible
[23:43:51] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But we're talking 47
[23:44:04] <Twi> 37 or 47 doesn't matter
[23:44:09] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's a whole different ballpark
[23:44:15] <Twi> if you're backtracking to 37, you're just being rubbish anyway
[23:44:35] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> No, I mean the shoes in 37, the Steel Toes you get from 37
[23:44:49] <Twi> What those?
[23:44:54] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, you're thinking of those
[23:44:58] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Those aren't the same as the ones in 47
[23:44:58] <Twi> Even so man
[23:45:07] <Twi> That's pixel perfection at it's worst
[23:45:23] <Yoshee> its
[23:45:36] <Twi> quiet you it's quater to 5am
[23:45:41] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> They just look the same
[23:45:56] <Twi> So yeah going to bed
[23:45:59] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:46:10] <Enrique> Get out Twone
[23:46:12] <Twi> I'll try those boots but they aren't gonna work unless I go through 17
[23:46:18] <Twi> and screw that for a laugh
[23:46:22] <Twi> See you later all
[23:46:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Give it a shot
[23:46:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Let's co-op next time
[23:46:34] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Maybe I can show you how the boots work
[23:46:44] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You too, Matilda
[23:48:07] <Matilda> Sounds good to me.
[23:07:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Step one to seeming like a cool person is to laugh at anything that is supposed to be funny
[23:08:12] <Zyph> do I even want to be a "cool" person? not really
[23:08:12] <Twi> Wearing sunglasses at all times is SUPERCOOl
[23:08:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> you're jumping ahead, Twi
[23:08:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's step 4
[23:08:31] <Twi> Oh sorry
[23:08:34] <Matilda> Yeah, this ain't a speed run.
[23:08:38] <Matilda> No sequence-breaking.
[23:08:42] <Twi> Sorry I'm just that hardcore
[23:08:51] <Matilda> Well to hell with your hardcore, this is caketown.
[23:08:57] <Zyph> what about regular glasses?
[23:08:57] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> well, if you're speed-running, the proper path would be 1-3-6, not 1-4
[23:09:05] <Twi> Sight is totally square
[23:09:14] <Matilda> Touche Cheese
[23:09:28] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> If you go 1-4, you end up with 1-4-5, you see
[23:09:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> and then you might miss the window to 1-4-5-8
[23:09:41] <Twi> But with 1-4-5, you can backtrack to 3-7 right away
[23:09:52] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I guess
[23:10:04] <Twi> then 8 will be right there too
[23:10:07] <Matilda> Backtrack? BACKTRACK!? Who needs to backtrack!?
[23:10:08] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but I always thought it was better to go 1-3-6-8
[23:10:15] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's safer than 1-4-5-8
[23:10:17] <Matilda> You don't need the items from 3 or 7 to win, you loser.
[23:10:26] <Twi> nah 5 and 7 would be useful
[23:10:29] <Twi> Especially 5
[23:10:33] <Twi> backwards hat? Need
[23:10:36] <Matilda> Pssh, you -would- need 5.
[23:10:47] <Twi> To be cool? Yeah you need 5 or you're just posing
[23:10:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> yeah, -you- would need 5
[23:10:53] <Twi> You'd have to go to 10!
[23:10:54] <Zyph> kweh?
[23:10:55] <Twi> Noone does 10
[23:11:01] <Twi> 10 is lame
[23:11:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I've done 10
[23:11:07] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 10 is not lame
[23:11:11] <Twi> 10 is so lame!
[23:11:16] <Matilda> I skip 10 because I'm hardcore.
[23:11:18] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You've never done 10; you wouldn't know
[23:11:21] <Twi> So much easier to get 5 and go to 12
[23:11:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Oh come on, 10 is cool
[23:11:27] <Twi> I've done 10 before it's not cool
[23:11:30] <Twi> I had to restart
[23:11:35] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> If you go 10, you can go to 13
[23:11:38] <Twi> And did the 5-7-12 way
[23:11:45] <Twi> 13 is ok, but it's not worth 10
[23:11:46] <Matilda> Am I the only one who goes through 11?
[23:11:48] <Zyph> 7 8 9?
[23:11:56] <Matilda> 11 is way faster.
[23:12:00] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Nah, Matilda, I go through there too
[23:12:06] <Matilda> Lets you skip right to 15.
[23:12:09] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but only when I'm in a completionist run
[23:12:22] <Twi> 11 seems a bit too softcore for it, especially when you miss 14
[23:12:29] <Twi> miss 11 and 15, 14 is pretty cool
[23:12:38] <Matilda> Hey, it's about speed, not hardcore.
[23:12:52] <Twi> Dude if you want to do 19 right you gotta be hardcore
[23:12:58] <Twi> Don't even try to do 20 without 19
[23:13:02] <Matilda> Pssh I always do 19 right.
[23:13:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Guys, the reason I take 1-3-6 is because in the long run, it takes you to 10 and 13 and unless you do 3, you can't jump from 13 to 27
[23:13:12] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I forgot to mention
[23:13:13] <Twi> Whatever you must miss 19b
[23:13:19] <Matilda> Wait seriously? You can't? Dangit!
[23:13:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Nope
[23:13:30] <Zyph>
[23:13:37] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's why, always 6-8-10-13
[23:13:40] <Twi> but you miss all the stuff in 13 - 27
[23:13:45] <Twi> yeah 27 is amazing
[23:13:49] <Matilda> Yeah, there's good stuff in there.
[23:13:54] <Twi> but you can do it with a longer way
[23:13:59] <Matilda> I'm pretty sure you get a triple jump somewhere in there.
[23:14:05] <Twi> 18 I think
[23:14:09] <Matilda> Yeah, that's right.
[23:14:14] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, I never thought I had to use it
[23:14:17] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I mean it's cool
[23:14:26] <Twi> 24 but you don't go there
[23:14:29] <Matilda> Yeah, you don't need it, but it certainly helps.
[23:14:36] <Twi> gets you from 24 -29
[23:14:45] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But you get the x2 multiplier in 29, so you never have to worry about odds ever again if you don't want to
[23:14:54] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> which is nice because then I don't have to deal with 33
[23:15:01] <Matilda> What's wrong with 33?
[23:15:04] <Matilda> I like 33.
[23:15:06] <Twi> 33 is lame man
[23:15:08] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 33 is just, ick
[23:15:12] <Twi> Just do 31-32
[23:15:13] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I mean, 33 is like Tubular of SMW
[23:15:16] <Matilda> Oh come on, 33 is fine.
[23:15:16] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 33 is NOT cool.
[23:15:24] <Twi> it just goes on forever
[23:15:26] <Matilda> You just gotta get the rhythm right.
[23:15:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's too much work
[23:15:44] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You lose so much time doing 33
[23:15:49] <Twi> Lose hardcore
[23:15:54] <Matilda> Yeah, when you don't know how to do it!
[23:16:08] <Twi> and you can just do 36 and it gives you 33 with less work
[23:16:11] <Twi> sure you have to do 34
[23:16:14] <Twi> But that's easy
[23:16:15] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> yeah
[23:16:26] <Matilda> We can all agree there.
[23:16:30] <Twi> Aye
[23:16:39] <Zyph>
[23:16:41] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 34 is a cinch
[23:17:08] <Twi> the final level 50 though
[23:17:11] <Twi> Damn that's hard
[23:17:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> See, that's why I go through 3 and 6, Twi
[23:17:27] <Twi> I never do it without at least 44
[23:17:28] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Level 50 isn't the end
[23:17:36] <Matilda> ... wat? There's more than 50?
[23:17:38] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:17:40] <Twi> No way
[23:17:48] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Didn't you guys hear about the expansion pack?
[23:17:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Maybe that's why you guys are going through 4
[23:17:55] <Twi> Oh that doens't count
[23:18:00] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Oh it so does
[23:18:12] <Twi> the the extra 20? So lame
[23:18:12] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> They go up to 117 now
[23:18:13] <Matilda> That's optional content man.
[23:18:20] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's worth it
[23:18:23] <Twi> Oh there's a 3rd expansion?
[23:18:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:18:31] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The third expansion is where it's at
[23:18:33] <Twi> I saw the 2nd with the exxtra 20
[23:18:37] <Twi> Man those sucked!
[23:18:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Those were okay
[23:18:45] <Matilda> I didn't get those.
[23:18:46] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I liked number 67
[23:18:48] <Twi> No they were so easy and so pointless
[23:18:53] <Twi> and level 69 was the worst
[23:18:55] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> 67 was the hardest
[23:18:56] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> ugh
[23:18:59] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Don't remind me
[23:19:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I hate 69 with a burning passion
[23:19:09] <Zyph> why?
[23:19:12] <Twi> And the reward??
[23:19:17] <Twi> Who needs that!
[23:19:24] <Twi> that's like minus hardcore
[23:19:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, 69 really sucks itself
[23:19:39] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The moment I got to 71 I knew the third expansion pack was worth it though
[23:19:44] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's worth going through 50-70
[23:19:56] <Twi> really?
[23:19:59] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> yeah
[23:20:11] <Twi> I found the quickest path going only 6 levels but you HAVE to do 69
[23:20:13] <Matilda> Sounds like I have an expansion pack to pick up.
[23:20:14] <Twi> And I don't want to again
[23:21:09] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Which path did you take?
[23:21:34] <Twi> 51-56-57-60-65-69
[23:21:39] <Twi> I didn't have to do 70
[23:21:43] <Twi> Which was awesome
[23:21:46] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Eh
[23:21:51] <Twi> but then 69
[23:21:52] <Twi> ugh
[23:22:10] <Twi> Only because 65 gives you that extra item in 69
[23:22:16] <Matilda> I'm feeling adventurous. I might just go through every path.
[23:22:18] <Twi> which is very useful but it's in a worse place
[23:22:24] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You can get there by 51-68-57-70
[23:22:24] <Twi> every path are you mad?
[23:22:33] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It looks like you're going back but it's only a trick
[23:22:34] <Twi> Even with the first 50 you'd be at it forever!
[23:22:39] <Matilda> I got max gamer score on Mega Man 9. OF COURSE I'M MAD.
[23:22:47] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, if you get every single one you get a super special mosaic of cooldom
[23:22:48] <Twi> Aww man what? There's a backtrack that big?
[23:22:52] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:22:56] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I didn't know what they were thinking
[23:22:58] <Twi> I mean the start backtracks you 2 but 11?
[23:22:59] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> When I saw it, I thought wtf?
[23:22:59] <Twi> That's mean
[23:23:04] <Matilda> What, are you serious? What is this, Metroid?!
[23:23:12] <Twi> I know dude
[23:23:23] <Twi> What's the 70 item?
[23:23:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, see, you have to do 68 in a certain way
[23:23:36] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Let me try to remember
[23:23:48] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I think it's a pen
[23:23:55] <Twi> what kind?
[23:24:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I don't know, some mightier kind
[23:24:07] <Twi> the one with the naked lady when you turn it upsidedown?
[23:24:12] <Twi> Because thats hardcore
[23:24:24] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's 60
[23:24:31] <Matilda> I thought that was only a limited-edition item?
[23:24:33] <Twi> Oh yeah
[23:24:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's the one that extends and hits people in the face and doubles as a walking stick
[23:24:43] <Twi> Nah that 60 pen is good
[23:24:46] <Matilda> Last time I trust the GameFAQs board.
[23:24:47] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's 70
[23:24:53] <Twi> That's pretty cool
[23:25:01] <Twi> I should give 71 - 117 a try
[23:25:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It was, Matilda
[23:25:08] <Matilda> That's crazy man.
[23:25:10] <Twi> But I gotta play again I restarted after a crash
[23:25:14] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But then they made a non-limited version
[23:25:32] <Matilda> Well that's good. I mean, I got into it late, so I missed all the goods.
[23:25:36] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's not as cool because the girl has a leaf on her right nipple in the non-limited one
[23:25:37] <Twi> Wait
[23:25:42] <Twi> I just thought that part in 49
[23:25:43] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but it's still pretty cool
[23:25:55] <Twi> with the expansion, that'd take you right to 68 wouldn't it?
[23:25:59] <Matilda> Leaf, nipple, I give no crap. It's still an item.
[23:26:03] <Twi> it seemed useless at first
[23:26:19] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's a huge jump though
[23:26:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I think there's like two steps before it
[23:26:36] <Twi> I know but it'd work right? I think you'd have to backtrack
[23:26:39] <Matilda> Wait, so there's a point to that jump?
[23:26:42] <Twi> But you'd get the 68 item early
[23:27:16] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, having 68 is pretty cool
[23:27:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but then you're at risk of wearing out 68 early
[23:27:37] <Twi> it'd make 50 easy
[23:27:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> unless you're überconservative and know how to use it
[23:27:50] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> everyone does that, though and then they miss the jump to 73
[23:28:01] <Twi> Ah i never had 73
[23:28:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's because you never played the 71-117 expansion
[23:28:15] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That's where it's at
[23:28:20] <Twi> I know I must do though
[23:28:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> yeah
[23:28:58] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I hear there's a glitch at 7 that takes you to -1 and then gets you stuck in 69
[23:29:07] <Twi> Oh god
[23:29:10] <Twi> And I do 7
[23:29:20] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> -1 isn't cool
[23:29:30] <Twi> Not come across it though
[23:29:31] <Matilda> Seems like an intentional reference, if you ask me.
[23:29:42] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Oh yeah?
[23:29:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Maybe it's just a trap
[23:30:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Like that game where you lose if you pull the plant instead of scooping it out
[23:30:26] <Matilda> I hated that trap.
[23:30:33] <Twi> Lame trap
[23:30:56] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, I don't like 69.
[23:31:52] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> We should all co-op 71-117 sometime
[23:32:01] <Twi> They co-oped it?
[23:32:08] <Twi> How do they sort out loot?
[23:32:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, that's one of the new features.
[23:32:17] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> They give out three times the amount
[23:32:23] <Twi> Cool
[23:32:26] <Matilda> ... nice!
[23:32:37] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But everything's marked "co-op-ol", but it's still cool
[23:32:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Being a team is cool
[23:32:59] <Twi> Hope there's customisation
[23:33:05] <Twi> being the same is cool
[23:33:08] <Twi> uncool
[23:33:18] <Gem> Twi, YOU'RE uncool, man.
[23:33:20] <Matilda> There better be customisation.
[23:33:29] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You can have red, green or yellow.
[23:33:33] <Twi> Gem you've not played this game!
[23:33:36] <Matilda> Calling green
[23:33:37] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I hope you're not-colorblind
[23:33:40] <Twi> Calling red
[23:33:47] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Or they'll all look the same to you
[23:33:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I'll take yellow.
[23:34:00] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yellow complements my nice blue rod anyway
[23:34:08] <Twi> you took the blue one?
[23:34:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah.
[23:34:23] <Twi> man I always take the red rod
[23:34:27] <Matilda> The rod eh? I took the book.
[23:34:32] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Ew, red
[23:34:42] <Twi> gives you access to the extra part of 43
[23:34:51] <Twi> which gives you the supershades
[23:35:01] <Matilda> Crap you need the rod for that?
[23:35:04] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:35:06] <Twi> the red one yeah
[23:35:13] <Twi> the blue one gives you...something else
[23:35:16] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The blue one gives you the shades with the lines through it
[23:35:18] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The Kanye West shades
[23:35:22] <Twi> Ah pfft
[23:35:25] <Twi> don't want them
[23:35:43] <Matilda> Pfffbahaha, it's like Navi all over again.
[23:35:50] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, Twi, I'm going to let you finish but the Kanye West shades are the best all time.
[23:35:56] <Twi> FFFFFFF4
[23:36:07] <Matilda> "HEY! HEY! I'MMA LET YOU GO ON, BUT AREA 44 HAD THE BEST ITEM OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!!!"
[23:36:16] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Oh yeah
[23:36:18] <Twi> Oh another question!
[23:36:21] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You can keep your supershades
[23:36:22] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> What's up, Twi
[23:36:24] <Twi> Which cape in 37?
[23:36:41] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> indigo
[23:37:01] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The indigo cape
[23:37:04] <Twi> Hmm that's alright
[23:37:09] <Twi> I went orange
[23:37:10] <Matilda> I took the Priest mantle. The healing bonus is nice.
[23:37:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Why, don't tell me you pick the—oh god
[23:37:19] <Twi> Man don't be hating
[23:37:27] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Why orange?
[23:37:28] <Twi> Orange + supershades
[23:37:32] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The Priest mantle is cool, Matilda
[23:37:40] <Matilda> Dang straight B)
[23:37:44] <Lazo> C3i lance is here
[23:37:49] <Lazo> All of you are losers
[23:38:30] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Okay, Orange + supershades, fine
[23:38:38] <Matilda> You just can't appreciate a game of this caliber.
[23:38:40] <Twi> Gotta have that for the DUDE cannon
[23:38:48] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> but Indigo + Kanye West shades is butt-kicking
[23:39:07] <Twi> That's more for short bursts
[23:39:16] <Twi> Orange + supershades man
[23:39:19] <Twi> Constant fire
[23:39:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I don't think you appreciate the value of shortbursts
[23:39:42] <Twi> it's ok but how do you do 47?
[23:39:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I've gone constant fire before. It's okay if you're being all casual
[23:40:14] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But short bursts is really better when it comes down to it
[23:40:19] <Twi> gotta do that way to get the 47 sneakers
[23:40:41] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Well, I get the 47 steel toe boots
[23:40:48] <Twi> Haha
[23:40:53] <Twi> That's so rubbish
[23:40:57] <Matilda> Steel toes? Really?
[23:41:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> At least it's not the Crocs you get with the mantle
[23:41:08] <Twi> Ahahaha
[23:41:14] <Twi> sneakers man
[23:41:14] <Matilda> Hey those crocs are awesome don't be hatin'.
[23:41:28] <Twi> Crocs are ok but sod all to what I want
[23:41:32] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Sneakers are good if you're going to be sneaking
[23:41:39] <Twi> Yeah man
[23:41:40] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But with steel toes you can plow your way to 70
[23:41:51] <Twi> That jump in 66?
[23:41:55] <Twi> No way with the steel toes
[23:41:58] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> That gigantic jump, yeah
[23:42:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> No, I've done it before
[23:42:05] <Twi> Lies
[23:42:10] <Matilda> You people with your expansion.
[23:42:13] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You need to time it much earlier
[23:42:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> People always do it worng because they think it's the same as doing it with sneakers
[23:42:28] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> wrong
[23:42:34] <Twi> Mat think of the jump in 28 but bigger with steel toe
[23:42:45] <Matilda> ... pfffbahahaha, good luck!
[23:42:55] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You don't need luck!
[23:43:02] <Twi> Nah man you must be lying
[23:43:11] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Seriously, try it
[23:43:13] <Twi> However you do that jump you'll fail
[23:43:17] <Twi> You must've gotten something else
[23:43:25] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> No, they're steel toe
[23:43:31] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> There's more than one kind of steel toe
[23:43:33] <Twi> no with the steel toe
[23:43:49] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> The steel toe in 37, yes, that's impossible
[23:43:51] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> But we're talking 47
[23:44:04] <Twi> 37 or 47 doesn't matter
[23:44:09] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> It's a whole different ballpark
[23:44:15] <Twi> if you're backtracking to 37, you're just being rubbish anyway
[23:44:35] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> No, I mean the shoes in 37, the Steel Toes you get from 37
[23:44:49] <Twi> What those?
[23:44:54] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah, you're thinking of those
[23:44:58] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Those aren't the same as the ones in 47
[23:44:58] <Twi> Even so man
[23:45:07] <Twi> That's pixel perfection at it's worst
[23:45:23] <Yoshee> its
[23:45:36] <Twi> quiet you it's quater to 5am
[23:45:41] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> They just look the same
[23:45:56] <Twi> So yeah going to bed
[23:45:59] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Yeah
[23:46:10] <Enrique> Get out Twone
[23:46:12] <Twi> I'll try those boots but they aren't gonna work unless I go through 17
[23:46:18] <Twi> and screw that for a laugh
[23:46:22] <Twi> See you later all
[23:46:23] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Give it a shot
[23:46:26] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Let's co-op next time
[23:46:34] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Maybe I can show you how the boots work
[23:46:44] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> You too, Matilda
[23:48:07] <Matilda> Sounds good to me.
