Furries?

[Twi]

I like furries, I have some furry friends, I'm open minded about Yiff, to be honest. As Toshi said, it's the person that counts, not what they do.

If you can suddenly change your mind about someone you've been friends with because they draw yiff, since when were you a friend? Aren't freinds supposed to stand by you in the choices you make? And why does finding out they draw yiff change the person they are? It doesn't in anyway.

I respect people who hate yiff, I respect people who like it. Infact, I couldn't give a crap because their liking of yiff doesn't matter about who the person is as a friend.

[Shoe]

Lol, I have one fur too many. Let's see...I think about eight different ones, and one is a mix of like seven or eight different animals. LEVEL UP ! ! I don't draw them acurrately in animal standards, more of a...actually I can't really explain it. Anyway, I don't really understand the question if we know anything about furries. Is there anything to know? ¬¬

[contention]

What was said about the meaning of Yiff by Pawy there in fact makes the most of sense:

It is true that in ways, Yiff can be displayed as something immoral or rather untasteful. Yet, you can't come to deny the fact that every human being has their own outlet of emotion and fertility. While you can disband this thought in some debate, you can't hide the truth from yourself. Yiff is merely the form of someone or somethings arousal, and as adult-hinted as that may be, it's the meaning behind the name. Of course, as life goes on, art forms are always going to be debated, when something new enters the mainstream it's never fully accepted. Will Yiff ever be publically acceptable? Likely not, and the same goes to that of the nude portraits in our past. While they might be looked upon as classic areas of our finer days, they still potray something we like to keep behind the sheets. Inevitably though, they give off a sensation of fine anatomy and what we as human beings can not come to deny. We all have "them", without these material-like cloths covering our skin, they peer like none other. Yet, there will always be that "bible-beating opinion" which states that the "youth should not be entertained by such unholy and unfit virtues of reality". Can't it be said though, that by the Bibles standards; both Adam and Eve were put onto the world in a fully "naked and pure" form. They were able to thrive this way, and it never came to bother them, until their minds became filled with sin and insecurity. These feelings were released as punishment unto them as consequence to their actions. So in reality, wouldn't the nude form of something infact be the most "pure and simplistic" form of humanity? Are we hiding behind standards of society with bibles in hand, all the while ignoring what the text says. It's hard to fight with such "strict-code", because the bible is nothing more but intrepretation and belief. It can go in one ear and out the other, and thus should never have any part in what we as a culture should see and should not see.

Now, of course, anyone could likely strike those comments with the mention of "This discussion is about furries not humans". Either way though, the two are the same thing; even if the fandom tries to deny it. Furries in themselves are anthropomorphic beings; therefore, they have the capabilities of humans and can use them to their will. They can walk, talk, feel, and spread thought and conscience just like any mortal being can. In fact, in older days, they were worshipped deeply as the "Dieties" of the time. Why and how, we can not say, all that can really be deciphered from that is animals were taken as a high gesture in nature. One of the most prominent societies of past times, such as the Eygptians, had found themselves praising the god of a "Half-Dog" known as Anubis, as well as that of a cat. While they may of course be dwindled in todays time, it should be taken note that all things must eventually come to an end. A changing world can alter the way we see things, and eventually Dieites were looked down upon by Catholic faith. Therefore, the presence of anthromorphic characters would enter a downslope; only refurbished by the emotions and innoncence of younger and energetic generations. So, in the matter of speaking; there is nothing completly wrong with what a "furry" announces itself as. In ways, it is the break from the common world; a mask that you can put over your face for a small time being. It lets you enter a door that only you can open, and from there you can do and say what you feel like. Everyone has their own release from the stress that we endure, becoming a furry and understanding them is just one of those ways. Many in that fandom have even stated, one reason they adore is because they can be someone else instead of themselves. It lets them experiment and enjoy the life that they are living, all while entering the shoes of some diffrent soul.

Now of course, with everything in our world, there is always going to be a negative drop to bring it down. Yiff, Vore, Inflation, Paw: all of these can be accounted for the furry fandom, and many eyes droop upon them with heavy remorse. While they may not seem so interesting to us, to the average viewer, don't get caught up in the pressure of your peers. Understand that everyone has something in this world that they are physically attracted to. No matter how religious you may be, or how strong your heart is with "God", you are human and shall always be. God did not make you perfect, that was not his intention; we are all built with flaws, and our lust is but one of them. Let it be known, that while the Seven Deadly Sins may exist; pay close attention to the fact that they relate heavily with human nature. Avarice, Lust, Envy, Hatred, Sloth, Gluttony, and Vanity; all of these make who we are. At times we all feel greed, we all have that lust in our heart, we all want what the others have, we all grow hot over matters, we all wish to give up, and we can take to many things in at once. Once again, as mentioned, don't base your values fully on the Bible or scriptures of religion. They were not made so that you could interact with those around you, in fact, they seem to feel a majority with opposing views. Believe what you want to, but don't give hatred toward another merely because of what they do and how they like it. If you were so "Biblicaly" educated, you'd know that hating Yiff would be a sin, merely due to the fact that "hate" is interpreted in how you feel upon it. Now of course, it can be stated that some Yiff does scar the eye; yet you can't come to shroud yourself from the fact that sexual adaptation is something that we all must undergo. We might not like to see it, and some do, you have to learn to sit with that fact. For more of an example, look upon the groups that we are, look upon the groups that you belong to.

Humans are far from noble and creative in their nature to keep a positive picture. Our emotions drain our happiness, giving us many chances to erupt in fashions we wish not to. As you go to school everyday, you may see your friends, people studying in class, students filling the hallways. All these pictures give you an image that education is a sturdy subject; does it ever cross your mind though that half of your student body will commit in sexual intercourse before they graduate. Do you ever sit at your desk and wonder how many kids in your class drink, let alone smoke their lives away? It likely never crosses your mind but of a few times (except of late, and how society influences teens to heavily disband these actions). When you feel that patriotism in your heart for the country that you live within, do you ever wonder where it started from and how you got to where you were. Did you know that many had to die and sacrifice themselves, so that you could merely sleep where you do at night? We fail to understand this, and we fail to recognize that there is a shadow to everything. Nothing in this world is always going to be a little perfect picture, painted with fragile faces and exciting places. There is always that darkness that erodes over one half of the portrait. Try as you might, you can't leave this realism, and you can't cast it aside either. Yiff may not be the most enjoyable thing to you, but to some it is, and you shouldn't have to push them down because you feel it's an unimportant part of the fandom. Hundreds of Christians burned innocent people in the Salem Witch trials, every time you go to chuch, do you focus on that one small point? Or do you let it go, and remember that you're there for the justice of hope and the will to learn the good of life.

You have to learn to give and just let love, while Yiff may at times be "rancid", there are forms of it that are artistic. We all may not see eye to eye, but we shouldn't hold some strange candle over the matter. Lighting it and eventually burning the scroll it stands upon; just let it flow and continue as it goes. It's a battle between two parts of a fandom, two parts of a growing community; ridding of one, rids of the other. The fact is, everyone has to learn to just let it smooth the path it needs. Sure, Yiff may be some course of action that the growing boy and girl with hormones feels, but it also has much more to it. People of all ages look at it and want more, and we can't think of them negatively. Sure it's nothing to raise flags over, but it's nothing to badger over either. People in this world have always had something to say against complex socio-economic political studies as well. They've had it for good reason to, or as they state; opinion wise, complex socio-economic political studies has never been something that should be seen. But then again, that also goes with Yiff in a way. As you can tell, no matter how hard the government or "concerned mothers" try to rid the internet of complex socio-economic political studies, it keeps coming back. It's like trying to drench a fire in gasoline, you only antagonize it. People want it because no one else does, it gives them that rebel protective feeling. The more you stop something from happening, the more you'll see it occur. We as humans have always been fighters, if you take our rights, we will bring them back in some shape, way, or form.

[penguinyoshi]

Can someone PM me what the Y word is

[teh yoshi]

penguinyoshi said:

Can someone PM me what the Y word is

It's yiff, and apparently, that's all they ever care to talk about here in this thread...

There's more to furries than that, but nooooo... All has been shadowed by THAT!

[Fluory]

It's yiff, and apparently, that's all they ever care to talk about here in this thread...

There's more to furries than that, but nooooo... All has been shadowed by THAT!

I'm very positive people know there's more to furries than that (like I know that). However, yiff seems to be more of an interesting topic due to differing opinions and all that spiffy stuff. Also it seems the topic just kind of naturally flowed that way. There's not really too much to say about furries in general, other than what they are. A furry themself might have more to say, and there are a couple of other things on furries, but yiff kind of makes the topic more interesting and allows the topic to have some interesting conversation/longer longitivity. Interesting things are pretty cool.

At least that's my thoughts on it. You're also free to try saying something else about furries that hasn't anything to do with yiff.

[teh yoshi]

Sure there's more to talk about furries.

For one, Lazo and I were discussing a bit on why a person would turn to the furry fandom. Is it something attractive in regards to the comfort in the roleplay they would often conduct? Some affinity for animals that could never be shared by anyone else, and only other furs would have a clue on how they feel, a better understanding? Maybe they just look cool? Or how about going to the extreme by believing in animalistic spiritual connection or totems? How does that even work?

Yar, I'll sit here and wait for a true fur to speak on this subject matter.

tehyoshi said:

? Some affinity for animals that could never be shared by anyone else, and only other furs would have a clue on how they feel, a better understanding?

I think this is about how it is for me. Ever since I was young, as long as I can remember, I've felt more comfortable as an animal than a human. I just never felt right like this. Whenever we would play around as kids, I was always an anthro animal character, usually a fox. It really is something I can't explain, and only others who feel the way I do can understand, honestly. Its the main reason I want a fursuit so badly, since it will bring me the closest to my desired animal form that I can possibly get. ^^;

[Fluory]

On the spirituality subject in particular, I do know a few things. Just a few things. Believing in the animal totem type stuff can be very comforting. The idea of having guidance in life is very nice, as is the fact it's not a "human spirit." People can identify or prefer humans over animals, quite obviously, and it can be a rather empowering belief to someone who really believes in it. Not too sure what to say on it, though...I have to say I probably relate to cats more than humans, though. Humans are so silly sometimes.

The reason I have furry-type characters would be because I like the appearance and styles of animals more than humans. Humans are boring, they're just there. I would probably rather be in the company of a feline than a human for a long time. For the most part, anyway. Having a furry role play character is like being able to have abilities, the appearance, and more wild-ish mannerisms that I wish I could have, I suppose. That's how it'd be for me, anyway.

Hehe, thats another thing. I also just really enjoy myself when in character. Humans are indeed boring. But if I'm a wolf, look: I get a cool tail, fur, claws, sharp teeth, amazing hearing and sense of smell. I get to act wild and free; growl, howl at the moon, whatever I want. Its just all a lot of fun ot me, combined with my inner animal feelings, its what makes me furry. LEVEL UP ! !

[Toshi]

tehyoshi said:

It's yiff, and apparently, that's all they ever care to talk about here in this thread...

There's more to furries than that, but nooooo... All has been shadowed by THAT!

Well it's not like it was brought up on purpose. Yes, the subject was on about Furries, and hell there is more to furries than the "magic y" word, but somebody brought the subject up, so that was the the subject of concern.

If you don't like a subject that's going on John, don't read about it. As Drew said to me a small while back, don't like, don't look, simple.

*Edited so it reads in past tense*

[teh yoshi]

toshi said:

tehyoshi said:

It's yiff, and apparently, that's all they ever care to talk about here in this thread...

There's more to furries than that, but nooooo... All has been shadowed by THAT!

Well it's not like it was brought up on purpose. Yes, the subject is on about Furries, and hell there is more to furries than the "magic y" word, but then somebody brought the subject up, so that seems to the the subject of concern now.

If you don't like the subject that's going on John, don't read this thread. As Drew said to me a small while back, don't like, don't look, simple.

No, it's not the subject of concern now. Look at the four posts previous to yours.

[Toshi]

tehyoshi said:

No, it's not the subject of concern now. Look at the four posts previous to yours.

Oh why, let me correct that for you then, i'm so sorry that i did not write my post in past tense for you.

[plebanshiren]

I too love furries, I think it's the whole, bringing your favourite animal(s) to life as a character and as a sort of human form, I too have a few Furrie characters, sadly "the magic Y" is part of the package, but not all furries go that way, I personally am not fond of it, but if some one is, hey, it's their intrest and I won't lose a freindship with some one just because of an intrest. We all have fantasies right? I mean, that's why yoshis corner was created and so much fan art has been produced, although some fantasies are rather extreme, it's one of the things that we may just have to let roll. any way I can see now the arguements clamed down, I'm sorry I even mentioned the 'Y' word. But yeh, furries are a very unique race and that's what makes em sush a good one.

[Fluory]

No, it's not the subject of concern now. Look at the four posts previous to yours.

I didn't think this was the topic, either; thought it was about furries.

So yeah. Like Ruru said, it's just like.. way better than having a normal human character. Animals are quite unique to us, and the appearance of animals can be just cool. It's nicer to imagine being a beautiful caracal-type creature that can hear, smell, jump, and do a whole lot of other things better or differently than us. Humans are dull; then again, that might be because we have to live as human beings.

[contention]

In a matter of speaking, this topic was originally asking who on the forums had presented themselves as a furry at least once or twice. That was the essence to the whole figment and program of the while. Then it turned into Yiff, which as you can state is an inevitable part of what the furry fandom is. You can try to deny that, but you'll wind up running into a wall. While it might be a hit on a large debate, just let it go and continue on with what you were. The debate was in general, something that had no fire or anything to light any flames. In actuality, the argument wasn't really even an "argument" to persay; it was originaly, mere statements being shared on two perspectives of Yiff. You can question it's avaibility to the subject, but you also need to understand that it is undeniably connected with the fandom. You might try to shoot back by stating, "Forums are situated on the grounds of public showing"; let it be known though that every human being has diffrent morals. In essence, the debate listed nothing that could be very conterversial with values. It did not go into detail of what Yiff was, it merely went to explain the feelings it expressed and the way that people viewed. As well, using the term "Y" word does not supply a secret term to the definition, it would only raise more questions as to what it was. Thus, it might as well be said instead of fretted. It's neither a curse word or a deragatory statement, it is a part of something that exist and can not be erased by one man alone.

In justice, the thread wasn't taken off of topic until the "Yiff" motion was detested. Yet, in a sense of speaking, the topic was never fully deprived. For, it seems that the beginning asked as to who was a furry. Yiff, in a matter, is linked to the furry fandom; very, very, very heavily. No matter where you go and how you go there, this sexual word is bound to come up in some script. Even on the YC, and the only way to get rid of it's mention is to amend a new portion to the Constitution in hopes of passing. As sad as it may seem, not everything can be kept in the mind of an innocent child; it should be directed that this can actually dry out a conversation very quickly. Yiff is not "all that has been cared to be talked about within this thread". For, as stated, it's something that is going to unwravel eventually and of those measures. At times, there are certain ways a subject can be broadened. Yiff has always been something seen through many eyes in the fans of the furry world; some hate it, some don't mind it, and some want it. Either way, it would have found it's way into this discussion eventually. Now, as your question stated Teh on the matter of letting a "True Furry" answer it, well that seems to depend upon what you mark as a true furry in and of itself. For, wouldn't someone thinking of themselves as a true furry in ways be vain; how do you know when you cross the lines of a true furry? Couldn't it be as easily hashed by a false face, then of that as a true member of the fandom? However, the question you did ask is far more than just simply appealing, and it definetly shows a lot of room to work within.

It's true that in ways, many furries seem to state that on the inside they feel that they have the soul of the animal. It is that which makes them special, and gives them a body to thrive upon. They seem themselves as a growing spectrum of a community, all united by one similiar the facet. The aspect that they, and all seem to stream an inner feeling of animal instincts. It is this which drives them, it makes them feel like themselves. Sort of like, putting a mask on; to hide away the humanity. By doing that, they can open as they choose to; saying what they want, acting as they want. It's freedom from the flesh, though they still remain inside of it. They, in fact, might be the only mortals so in touch with their innocence that they still remain in innocence.

[Sirghe]

garuru said:

Arooooo! We have a furry right here. TRIPLE BONUS MULTIPLIER ! !

I've been a furry...well, since as long as I can remember. I started out with a red fox character, named Miles (influenced by Tails, hehe) when I was very young. Eventually, I decided that I felt more right as a wolf, and so I became a grey wolf, eventually adopting the game "Garuru." I actually found out about the fandom years ago, and my interest was further peaked when I started discovering the artwork, and especially the fursuits. Sinced I've joined YC, I've fully embraced my furrydom, and even told my best friend about it. Turns out he is one too, now. TRIPLE BONUS MULTIPLIER ! !

Hehe, well, thats the history of this silly wolf. ^^;
Oh, and the song you are talking about, Pleban, is The Furry Song by Kurrel the Raven. LEVEL UP ! !

And I would be his furry friend... though I am more of a hybrid furry (wait....) Uh, yeah. Me and Ruru go way back, like Kindergarten/ First grade I believe. n_____n

[Mailtroid]

Damn, sorry everyone. >__< I didn't get to answer to all of your HOLY!!! How many replies are there??? *cough* Ok, I seriously have to read all of this tonite. I just didn't get to reply lately. Homework is killing me and I got sick a few days ago.

I'll try to reply to most of your posts today.

WOAH! I mean...Woah TRIPLE BONUS MULTIPLIER ! !...all I actually wanted were a few opinions.

[vaporshi]

Uh, was my response deleted? If so, I feel that was a very unfair and biased move by the moderators.

[Not-Garr]

...This topic seems to have strayed very far, and is quickly turning into a mess of drama. Maybe a mod should lock it before it goes too bad.

Back on topic...
I'm obviously a furry of the dragon variety.