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Post by Soul on Feb 25, 2004 3:37:07 GMT -5
To all users with administrative privileges: We need to discuss forum policies together. For example, we need to define exactly what will get a user kicked out or his/her posts deleted, otherwise each moderator will have a completely different response to a suspicious post. For example, I would like to propose that honesty be allowed always. Don't delete a post just because there is a negative opinion in it. This is a board, not 'happyland' or something like that, and thus it is to expect both positive and negative ideas. We need to be fair with everyone. I don't want this board to ever become anything like those boards with really stupid rules and easy-to-upset administrators. I don't think you guys want it either. This has to be a fair place. Also, for TimYoshi: Make sure your password is at least 8 characters long (longer is preferred, just not too long), and make sure it is not a common word or something that would be easy to guess. Make sure it has both numbers and letters on it. If someone with evil intentions gets your password, this whole board could be deleted. So please, do not take security lightly... Things that should never be allowed in this board should include: Hateful content (Be careful not to confuse hateful content with negative opinions) Obscene content Personal information from anyone Excessive profanity I know we can think about many other things. Let's write the 'board constitution' together! (sounds like fun too...)
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Post by Yoshi on Feb 25, 2004 11:34:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up I didn't know people could have evil intentions sheesh. I'll change my password. Also it takes a lot to make me angry
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Post by Soul on Feb 25, 2004 16:59:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up I didn't know people could have evil intentions sheesh. Well I was just trying to make it easy to understand...
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Post by Yoshi on Feb 26, 2004 20:02:36 GMT -5
Yeah let's make that board constitution. I get on it right away and have by tues to be reviewed by all moderators then the members can see it
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Post by Yoshiken on Feb 26, 2004 20:21:12 GMT -5
sounds good to me...
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Post by joshi on Feb 26, 2004 22:02:08 GMT -5
Um... let's start with violation of censored words. If someone were to say something profane, it's instant ban. Now I know each board has its own censored words, but people can overcome this security by: *Misspelling a word *Spelling the word (ex. L-a-u-g-h) *Substituting letters with symbols
I don't think anyone will violate the board rules though. Don't worry, nobody would ever dare to say something profane by avoiding it from being censored. This is a Yoshi site, and besides, I know practically everyone here. I always get to meet the new members!
Another thing is teasing and/or taunting rudely to hurt someone else's feelings intentionally. I find that very mean and wretched in every way, so if I were the administrator, I would ban anyone who violates this rules. That's mean and uncalled for. Well, that's all I can think of. I'm sure Yoshiken and Teh Yoshi could come up with a few more amendments. They're very creative!
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Post by joshi on Feb 26, 2004 22:07:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up I didn't know people could have evil intentions sheesh. I'll change my password. Also it takes a lot to make me angry Like I said. I doubt anyone in this board has any evil intentions. Some act evil for joking around (i.e. Yoshiken) just to make the board interesting and a laugh. He came up with the idea of the Dark side of the Smileys. But see, those things should be allowed because it's all in good fun. If it were to be offensive, then we may set the standards up a bit. But we must try our best to make the rules loose and easy to keep in mind, that way people wouldn't get nervous when they write their posts. Folow me so far?
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Post by Yoshiken on Feb 26, 2004 22:40:03 GMT -5
yes censored words and rude complies should definetly be not allowed but if they violate it once i dont think they should be banned automatically...maybe a warning or something but it shouldnt be an instant ban. if you do it once youll get scolded dramatically but if you do it again then you can ban em. oh and extreme spamming should be another rule too.
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Post by Soul on Feb 27, 2004 1:35:58 GMT -5
Guys, please be more specific with your rule suggestions. For example, if you were to ban someone for spamming or 'flooding' the board with multiple identical posts, you have to define exactly how many posts would be needed to ban that person. Same for all other types of misconduct. That's what this forum policy thing is all about!
Sorry Joshi but I do not agree with you; Just because you know the current users of this board doesn't mean there can't ever be an offender here. We must be prepared for anything. Over the years I have met 2 or 3 persons who wanted nothing but trouble for us Yoshi fans.
As for profane language, this board has a word replacement tool. If someone writes ''chair'' I can tell it to replace it with ''table''. I can do the same with any other word.
I do not want any moderators to be too strict; As long as the posts are not 'clearly in violation of our future terms', please do not take action (my suggestion). Be like Tim.
Joshi, I sense you are too strict. I think banning someone for saying just 1 profane word is an excessive punishment. What if the person who said it had a bad day? It can happen. Now, if the profane word were aimed at insulting another user, this would be very different. In this case the person who said it should be warned, except in the case where the poster's sole intention for registering on this board was to insult someone else. For all other posters, on the 2nd offense they should be banned. But I don't think they should be banned for using profanity not directed at people unless the poster refuses to cooperate with the moderators.
As for "teasing and/or taunting rudely to hurt someone else's feelings intentionally" and "joking around to make the board interesting and laugh": How can you be sure that you will always tell the difference between these? These things are very similar in some cases. This is why you need to be less strict. If you go around banning everyone who does something 'slightly mean' then we will have significantly fewer board users.
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Post by Yoshi on Feb 27, 2004 12:15:52 GMT -5
Yeah being too strict might make people not to join we got to be loose like for example lets give people 3 strikes that way they know where they stand.
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Post by joshi on Feb 27, 2004 16:14:54 GMT -5
Don't worry sirs. I won't let that happen! You can count on me! Don't worry Soul, I'm not going to be very strict. I know there are people with evil intentions out there, but that doesn't necessarily mean we have to say to keep a sharp eye on everyone. You should depend on all the members here to follow the rules. Any slight doubt might disturb the balance. It's okay to be protective, just not overly protective. Don't worry, these are nice people, and they'll never break a rule, I'll make sure of that. If they do make an error, I'll correct them, simple as that. No reason to get too worked up right?
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Post by Yoshiken on Feb 27, 2004 18:53:46 GMT -5
four score and seven years ago our foreyoshis brought to forth this nation... lol. yea i agree three strikes sounds good enough to where it is just enough strictness
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Post by joshi on Mar 26, 2004 18:32:13 GMT -5
Um, Yoshi Soul or Tim Yoshi, could you perhaps erase some of the very old, abandoned threads in the Yoshi Cafe. Those that are in page 2 & 3 that nobody ever touches anymore? It really would help keep the forums organized. Don't erase the important ones like the "Important Dates" thread. That can be used for future reference. I would really appreciate if you do. Thanks.
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Post by Soul on Mar 26, 2004 21:57:36 GMT -5
um don't you think it would be better if we just left them there?
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Post by joshi on Mar 26, 2004 22:03:17 GMT -5
I supposed memories are something to treasure. Sure why not. Maybe someday, people we'll return to those topics.
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Post by teh yoshi on Mar 26, 2004 22:10:19 GMT -5
Phew! Thank God that was denied. I honestly don't see the point in deleting very old posts. I do, however, am somewhat against posting in topics that died long ago that are kind of irrelevent today or that nobody cares about anymore.
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Post by joshi on Mar 26, 2004 23:03:50 GMT -5
Well in my opinion, it is sort of pointless to just leave topics who no one ever visits again so they could just catch some dust and cobwebs. Does anyone ever visit them? Basically, my point is that visitors go for the current going-on's, in other-words, the very first page that appears as they enter the section. No one wants to turn the page to look at yesterday's news. It's inconvinient and useless. That's just my opinion, I'm only sticking up for what I belief. After all, why say you want to do something without a reason?
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Post by teh yoshi on Mar 26, 2004 23:17:50 GMT -5
But old topics can help people who are new to the boards. They can read old stuff to understand WHY things are going on right now, or what have we been talking about lately. They can learn off of our past to help them catch up to who we are here now.
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Post by joshi on Mar 27, 2004 12:10:23 GMT -5
I have yet to see anybody actually take their time to flip the pages to learn about us and what became of our forums, but nevertheless, I respect your opinion.
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Post by Soul on Mar 27, 2004 15:14:42 GMT -5
Me too, since I really can't 'see' the people who browse or post on this board. Joshi, have you noticed that the most important posts (those that are currently receiving attention) are always on the top of page 1? This happens entirely automatically. You don't need to delete old topics to keep the board organized. I deleted the old word association game because it was too long and because it doesn't provide any useful info about Yoshi or anything like that, it's just a game... And I can't visualize someone coming to this board and opening that thing, other than to play it
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