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Post by dartshi on Aug 9, 2005 11:20:19 GMT -5
THOS are cool moves wd=y+r+<> waveshine (falco fox only)= down B+wd dash cancle +<+>+<+>+<+>+<+> relly fast so you see lots of dust chain grab (only certain charicters can chain grab certain targets)fox grab falco=Z+^+Z+^+Z+^+Z+^+Z+^+ect. falco grab fox=Z+\/+Z+\/+ect.
and many more
L cancle = areal a attack and L,R,or Z right when you land so you wont have to wait to get up
c combo #1 fox =Y +\/+A+L cancle+wave shine+^smash #2falco=\/B+Y+\/B+Y+back a #3luigi=wave dash to enemy(if he\she is too far)+\/B+^B+up smash #4marth=wdaway from enemy+wd to enemy+sideBx4+B
charecters with speatail abbellites luigi critical peach flot yoshi invonerability fox extra fighter stance falco extra fighter stance samus Long grapple, wall grappel,homing grappel link wall grapple yung link wall grapple iceclimbers frees
wall kick can be dune by mario ylink pechu samus fox shik falco c.falken and maybe others
Well the friend of mine that is supposed to pay for the omega zorgon website forgot to so I am going to remind him, I will try to post one of the movies myself later on, it is a 5 live stock match on final destination, between Fox and Shiek, when we recorded my brother Ace and his friend Zinth fighting, it turned out to be a very good fight Ace has ben a very high level player since the very start if he went to a world tourniment he would get at least in the top 3, and so would Zinth, the reason why is if you see vedios of the world champ playing he is only the best by a little, and there are vedios of him losing to, but any way I will try get some vedios later on, these were recorded about 2 and a half months ago, so the fighters are alot better now than what you will see, at the time Ace couldn't wave shine but now he is almost an expert at it. any way heres annother link www.omegazorgon.com/smashbros for all the good it will do.....
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Post by Lazo on Aug 9, 2005 12:23:18 GMT -5
The link is still down and out, unfortunatly.
A calculus combo is like...
Suppose we want to find the area of a square. We find the length of a side and square the result. If the length is 4 then the area is 16. What if it's close to 4? Is the area close to 16?
4.1 -> 16.81 4.01 -> 16.0801 4.001 -> 16.008001
Apparently if the length is close to 4 then the area is close to 16. As length gets closer to 4, the area gets closer to 16. We can make the area closer to 16 by making the length closer to 4. The limit of the area as the side approaches 4 is 16. That's a calculus combo.
I believe I get 50,000 points for that one in the victory screen. It's unfortunate that no one at LDPCB has a digital camera.
You know this wave dash thing doesn't look so impressive and... waitaminute... Oh snap! You don't know what makes "Five Paladin tanks with two Pathfinder and TOW-missile equipped HMMVS in front of three Tomahawk cruise missile launchers under Search and Destroy" unstoppable, do you? This revelation is infinitely excellent.
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Post by Gene L.D. Ryoko on Aug 9, 2005 15:54:55 GMT -5
wha? wave dash? calculous combos? WHAT? whats all that stuff? im confused. I have the game and im pretty good. Heh. Whenever you go along using Link for like, the 2 years that youve had the game. You realize that your pretty sucky when you try to use Yoshi. Or. at least i did. MAn Yoshi took gettin used to. BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING wave dash? Calculous combos? what are they? it's just a nerds way of saying button codes
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Post by Not-Garr on Aug 9, 2005 19:59:39 GMT -5
No, actually, it's the name given to a glitch in the game, because it looks like you're riding on a cushion of air. It takes about 2 months to master, and it takes even longer to learn SHFFL'ing(Short-Hop Fast-Fall L-Cancel), and then about 6 months to integrate the two, I stopped at knowing how to do a wavedash, and the theory behind all of those combos like 'Infinite Shine' (A supposedly infinite combo involving the Reflector(called the Shine in SWF), it's physically impossible for a human to pull off because of the speed and frame-by-frame timing required.). I'm not impressed if you CAN do these things, it just means you have no love for the game to get good enough without exploiting a glitch. I mean, come on, anyone who loves this game will find it agonizing to spend several months figuring this crap out. And once you finally master it all, the game isn't fun anymore, because it just becomes a button-mash-war. Not fun at all, Dart, I'm not impressed. Why don't you come out here and beat me without WDing or SHFFL'ing or anything involving them?
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Post by dartshi on Aug 9, 2005 20:38:01 GMT -5
GWA HA HA WITH OUT heh simpal I'LL GET WORSE!!!!! and for the second time they are not glitches but skills any one who relly loves ssbm(like me)has a naturail advantage over thos who don't(like you)I can do more than 101% of thos things and it took me a good two months to master AND the game gets more and more fun every time I play and every time I get a new skill ! Oh and if they were glitchis the game would get dameged every time you did it. This is the only game I play every day (not all day)(my family is not the rithces in the world I one 1/3 of a game cube a nintendo ds Ace has 1/3 of a gc a ps2 a nintendo ds and lee has a nintendo ds and 1/3 of a game cube)
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Post by Not-Garr on Aug 9, 2005 20:53:36 GMT -5
Ahem, glitches don't damage your game, they're just bugs in the code that allow you to do things not intended, such as wavedashing. Wavedashing itself is a glitch, it requires skill to use it, almighty n00b. And I find that zooming around at extremely high speeds while trying to count the frames during which to use your next SHFFL-burst-kick-shine-whatever-the-hell-combo-you're-gonna-bust-out isn't fun, it just reduces the game to elitism, where you 'have' to learn these idiotic things just to be considered good. I don't even care anymore, thanks for ruining SSBM for me you moronic @#$%. You and all the other SWF jerks just ruined any hope I had to enter tournaments with your stupid 'skills' and glitching. May you burn in hades everlasting.
P.S.: Noone gives a flying Rattata's behind what systems you and your petty little friends have. I'm lucky to have a working PS1, so shut up, sit down, and play SSBM the way it was meant to be played, otherwise you have no respect from me.
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Post by Gene L.D. Ryoko on Aug 9, 2005 21:01:08 GMT -5
agree's with rage
glitches can mess a game depending on the glitch,no one wants to get every thing, because it gets boring. also filling morons with ideas like these are a bad choice. here is your reward math nerd(sorry i wanted to say that), a trip to theschoolofbordom(the school of bordom)(if you master every thing you might as well be bored)
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Post by dartshi on Aug 10, 2005 9:43:30 GMT -5
Well technically most of the things you said are glitches aren't glitches at all, and have no chance of damaging the game, for example, bathroomage, when you are in the air and then you just go down faster "fast fall" then I highly dout that is a glitch, all you have to do is pres down, and wave dashing, well all you do is jump and right before you leave the ground you air doge diagonally left or right and slide a little, And the infinite shine is possible, I have a vedio from the internet of a fox doing it to capt falcon.
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Post by Gene L.D. Ryoko on Aug 10, 2005 15:47:57 GMT -5
how is this a question anyway,it sounds more like an excuse to talk about glitches in SSBM
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Post by Enrique on Aug 10, 2005 17:28:50 GMT -5
Estoy de acuerdo con Rage y L.D. (I agree, basically.)
I don't get the point of figuring out glitches anyway. It ruins the fun of the game. And besides, what in the world would we have to use wavedashing anyway? Why not beat just simply the crap out them? Isn't that the whole point of the game?! Personally, I don't care about glitches and cheats and stuff like that, because they don't seem to do anything for me.
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Post by dartshi on Aug 11, 2005 13:26:08 GMT -5
they are not glitches at all and wavhdashing can be used for counter attacking for exampel if someone is in range of smashing and smashes wd away to dodge it then wavedash back to smashing range and smash!and if you try to areal attack and miss then you're opponent will attack BUT if you L cancle you can smash them.and if you cant reflect or fire projectiles and a projecatile is hedding your way then you can power shiled to send it back where it came from
these are not glitchis at all air dodging diagnoly is no glitch getting back on foot quickly is no glitch.
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Post by Enrique on Aug 11, 2005 14:02:27 GMT -5
Dart, first off, use some proper English grammar. I couldn't understand half of what you were trying to say. Second, one little question: Why would we need this?
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Post by dartshi on Aug 11, 2005 16:15:42 GMT -5
dose this mean that you fight computer players *sigh* cauz if you fight tournement people (note I've seen enternnet recordings)(note I've never been in a taournement) youll see.
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Post by Enrique on Aug 11, 2005 18:59:46 GMT -5
Yes, I do. Because I'm not quite as an avid gamer as you think. I don't have the kind of time to sit down and figure out these silly little things. And by the way, the little bit of gaming I do manage to get in hasn't been SSBM recently.
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Post by Lazo on Aug 11, 2005 19:20:23 GMT -5
You don't NEED those glitches. All you need is to know the "Five Paladin tanks with two Pathfinder and TOW-missile equipped HMMVS in front of three Tomahawk cruise missile launchers under Search and Destroy" technique and you win.
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Post by Not-Garr on Aug 11, 2005 19:23:13 GMT -5
And I greatly thank you for teaching me that technique, Lazo. I've not lost a match since!... Granted, I've only had two matches since then, but it is, indeed, the ultimate technique.
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Post by dartshi on Aug 11, 2005 20:13:50 GMT -5
I've NO clue what the "fIVe TanK FiNDer MisSiLe HaWK LUnCher deStRoyER'' is lazoshi
and get this ...
...THERE NOT GLITCHES!!!!!!!!! (for the umth time)
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Post by Not-Garr on Aug 11, 2005 20:22:08 GMT -5
Dart, you don't know what the "Five Paladin tanks with two Pathfinder and TOW-missile equipped HMMVS in front of three Tomahawk cruise missile launchers under Search and Destroy" technique is? And you call yourself an expert? All the pros know of, and use that technique!
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Post by Lazo on Aug 11, 2005 23:50:51 GMT -5
You capitalized the wrong letters words.
Of course it's the best, it's engineered to counter the Scorpion tactic, and EVERYone uses the Scorpion tactic.
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Post by dartshi on Aug 12, 2005 10:14:31 GMT -5
wha! I caped what I wonted too and i've never herd of it or the Scorpean.
If I were to gess the squpean tacktic is edge attack and the five mistroyue thinge is to edge gurd
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