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Post by Soul on May 28, 2004 16:57:55 GMT -5
Important announcement
From now on, ANYONE who repeatedly breaks the rules (2 times is enough) will be banned for hours or days, depending on the offense. This includes anyone who continues criticizing me (or Tim) about my administration. Don't EVEN insinuate it in your posts. Just plain forget that there is an admin on this board.
The most troublesome members are, by far: Joshi, Graedius, Teh Yoshi and Nightcroshi. On the next offense, they will be banned for a full day. After that, if they continue breaking the rules, they will be banned again, and their banishment will last longer each time.
All these measures are absolutely necessary now that the board has gone out of control.
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Post by dancingyoshi on May 28, 2004 17:32:24 GMT -5
hes right its your fault aswell so don't blame us all the time!and you make fun of the way Graedius speaks that some example to the members isn't it?  sorry but i don't agree with it! |
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Post by Tempest on May 28, 2004 17:38:43 GMT -5
The people on Yoshi Soul's list seem to = the people who stick up for themselves against Soul, and don't always just take everything he throws at us. This is not criticizing the admins in any way, just stating my views on the situation.
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Post by Koshizu on May 28, 2004 17:42:51 GMT -5
I'm not even going to start on the whole evil thing. ¬_¬*
But what I will say, is that I don't think its a good idea that you post any more to this thread. Whats done is done, you may as well get used to it. Constantly bringing the subject back up isn't going to help your cause, and neither will it bring your status back down from the road to being banned. If you feel you were sofore banned unjustly, then why not PM an Admin? I find that posting on the board may sometimes just not be the time and place, plus, with PM you can say things confidentially. And, that way you can have a one to one and won't get quoted five dozen times, each interpreting your opinion differently.
And that is as much as I will post on this thread. I just hope that everybody gets back on track, and that no more trouble shall arise from circumstances such as these.
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Post by Soul on May 28, 2004 18:54:06 GMT -5
hes right its your fault aswell so don't blame us all the time!and you make fun of the way Graedius speaks that some example to the members isn't it? sorry but i don't agree with it! Dancingyoshi, you too? This is your first time. You don't have to agree, and it's fine with me if you don't. What is NOT ok is that you make posts saying that you do not agree. Please stop. And I didn't make fun of Graedius just because, like he did. I hope you're not saying that the people I consider to be troublesome are actually "standing up to injustice"? Cause that's not helping me at all to gain control over the board. |
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Post by Graedius on May 29, 2004 2:33:39 GMT -5
What is NOT ok is that you make posts saying that you do not agree. I hope you're not saying that the people I consider to be troublesome are actually "standing up to injustice"? Cause that's not helping me at all to gain control over the board.  Yoshi Soul, do to me what you will, do to this post what you will, but by editting it, deleting it, or not even reading it, you only reinforce what I say in it. Whether that means anything or not to you, it matters not; Why do you fear the truth? Why do you fear criticism? Why must you stifle it so? How does this benefit you? How is this even remotely fair for anyone else who is here to have a good time and a chat when there's someone looming above them all in a total totalitarianistic manner?  And yes, we, (at least me) is standing up to injustice. I suppose you don't see it as injustice for whatever reasons you have. But it is, plainly and obviously. You are denying us all rights we deserve, and threatening to change our posts so that they benefit you, as well as unprecedently rewritting the constitution so it again, benefits you, as well as suddenly making up rules that benefit you.... all beaucse you can't take any criticism or negative feedback whatsoever. Have you ever stopped to be remotely rational and think from another point of view? Becuase it seems like you never do, and never will.  Sure, go ahead, ban me again. But, as your constant injustive goes on, more will stand up agaisnt you... And the more you ban, the less of us there'll be. eventually, you'll ban everyone because they want a fun place to be, not a police-state forum. And then, when you're all alone in your empty forum of bans, you can enjoy the little world you've made for yourself. |
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Post by dancingyoshi on May 29, 2004 3:10:25 GMT -5
yes graedius is right......what is up with you?you deleted joshis post because it was the truth and you can't face it?that is just being a childish!sorry but the idea of a forum for 15 and older is stupid!Please act lie you are 15 or older well most of the time of what i've heard of you you act like a child.
so start to accept the truth even if you don't like it!!!!!
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Post by Mailtroid on May 29, 2004 13:46:35 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Graedius wrote:[/glow] Sad but true...  Please Soul, stop the banning....please Soul!  This is maybe my last post for a few weeks...so it does not matter if you ban me....but please dont ban anyone else... I am really worried about all this... |
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Post by Blue-Yoshi on May 29, 2004 15:19:17 GMT -5
Some people can hack in and say stuff about members so what happens if that hapeens.
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Post by Tempest on May 29, 2004 15:40:27 GMT -5
Wow.. Graedius.. you are GODLY. Thank you for summing up everything I've been thinking but haven't had the courage to say.
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Post by Graedius on May 29, 2004 17:41:35 GMT -5
I simply stand up for what is right, what is just... and this, most certainly, is not. Soul, you told me before that "A policeman needs to be harsh, have you ever heard of a freindly policeman?" While that may be so, what exactly have we done that requires a police state? Anyways... I have no fears, here. I know that all the people who beleive the same thing will amass and either get change, or go somewhere where they can be in peace.
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Post by Yoshiken on May 29, 2004 18:23:59 GMT -5
i must say greadius gives a convincing statement...im with ya greadius, i do not fear the chance of being banned
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Post by Soul on May 29, 2004 18:50:44 GMT -5
This should NEVER bother you if you are not a rulebreaker. But if you are one, it's perfectly understandable. Now that I was forced to resort to 'totalitarian' actions, of course you had a harder time doing what you wanted, and of course I'm almost sure this is why you're so p*ssed.
I would say EXACTLY the same thing to you.
Look, you go try argue with a person who is 3-7 years younger than you and see how that young person responds. I am going to try to argue as little as possible, not because I don't have much to say (actually I have a whole lot to say), but because I know that unless I write a book about this (aka gigantic post) many of you will keep doing and thinking the same things, regardless of what I say. Some of you are too young to understand easily, while others (like Graedius) are too full of themselves to accept anything. If you want to know what I think about all this, IM me. I've decided I can't and should not be posting in this forum just like any user, because many of you are especially good at judging people without hearing both sides. I am very disappointed of this community. Not like you'd all care anyway.
However I will comment on one thing: I didn't do what I did because I can't take criticism or anything like that. I did it because you need to have respect in order to control a board. THAT IS WITHOUT QUESTION. What happens to a kid who makes a speech in front of his classmates? Don't the classmates laugh at every mistake he makes? Why do you think that happens? Because the classmates don't feel obliged to respect him. Now, what if the person speaking were a teacher, especially if it's the director? Do you think the students would laugh at his mistakes? Hell no, because they respect him a lot and know that if they laugh they could get in trouble. Same here on this board. If you don't feel like something bad is going to happen if you break the rules, you'll break them all the time.
I DID TRY not to turn to this, but it didn't work because, of course, I didn't have the respect I needed to take care of the board. And many of you went along doing whatever you thought was right and ignoring the rules, with no care in the world whatsoever than your OWN well-being. naturally I had to increase my power and start banning users. This in turn made things worse because many of you still wouldn't listen, particularly Graedius and Joshi. You two never accepted anything that was even slightly against your liking.
What I did was for the benefit of the board entirely. Do you think I enjoy this? Do you think I'm being mean just because? Apparently that's what you all ended thinking. I would have never replaced the 1st constitution if it weren't absolutely necessary.
That is not a very smart thing to say. And you know why? Because EVERYBODY has a different idea of what is right and what is not. Aren't there people out there who think it is not right to be forced to pay taxes? Is it wrong not to pay taxes? While most would say it is wrong, these persons are completely convinced that it is the opposite. Therefore if you say "I stand up for what is right", you're basically saying "I stand up for what I think is right". Naturally, because of this, few understood my necessary but perhaps hurtful 'totalitarian' actions, and none ever thought what would happen if they could give in a little bit. Most of you went "OMFG U R SO EVIL GO AWAY" and that's the end of the story. At least I tried. But don't be surprised if havoc breaks up again because there is no admin. And if it does, you will have to fix them entirely yourself.
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Post by Derek Starshot on May 29, 2004 19:48:48 GMT -5
In a cult, 'Upper-class men' don't stand for criticism or opinions, which frankly, is all the human mind is made up about. You have to judge what's right, what's wrong, and what's true and false for yourself. No one's gonna do it for you, and no one should have to. Likewise, you should not let someone tell you what's right and wrong. These are the principles of life and wisdom, whether you see it so or not matters not; I see it that way. Whether members are over-acting over simple rules placed for order, or admins are abusing their powers, I don't know. I'm new, so these faces don't mean much to me right now.
I admit that I'm new to these boards and don't have too much of a right to make a rash judgment about topics on hand or members, but I do realize that problems don't get solved by being silenced. I said my piece, and now, I step into the background again and continue to observe, totally open-minded and awake. Everyone here has something useful to say, and that's what I think is true. By the way, I think Graedius the Red Mage has some good logic going.
Oh, and, I'm Anti-Guy. ;D Nice to meet all of you.
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Post by joshi on May 29, 2004 19:52:47 GMT -5
Ugh. I'd rather be at my typewriter writing fan fics than being here. You know what, that ban time did me good. I'm going to write more fan fics now. Oh and one more thing, Graedius was only expressing his opinions! You tell him new guy! Also, he's right, banning every single members isn't going to solve the conflict, in fact, you're pushing it on yourself.
Ugh, I want to say something mean after being banned but I could really care less. I'm too frustrated to say a word.
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Post by Soul on May 29, 2004 20:05:24 GMT -5
I agree totally. Except for one little thing, more below:
I believe that is a very broad statement. Government tells us all the time what is wrong and what is not. Those who refuse to accept it are punished. Thieves don't accept that they aren't free to take other people's things. That is why we still have thieves, because they won't give in on what the government says.
This certainly applies for everything else not specified by the government. Those who do it too with the government will always get in serious trouble. And that's really the only way to maintain order, whether you like it or not. We humans are much too selfish to live in a world more peaceful than it already is.
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Post by dancingyoshi on May 29, 2004 20:09:25 GMT -5
if you ban members alot its not goin to solve anything and its not solving anything so theres no reasen to do it everyone will start to hate you!So what do you want to do ban people when it doesn't solve anything and be hated or not ban so many people and be a liked global mod?Its just stupid to ban somany people because they say there opinions!
theres no point so wake up and get real yoshi soul theres no point banning so many people!
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Post by joshi on May 29, 2004 20:12:33 GMT -5
I'm afraid the board is still a burning inferno.
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Post by dancingyoshi on May 29, 2004 20:16:30 GMT -5
I believe that is a very broad statement. Government tells us all the time what is wrong and what is not. Those who refuse to accept it are punished. Thieves don't accept that they aren't free to take other people's things. That is why we still have thieves, because they won't give in on what the government says. but your a global mod not an admin so whats up with that you do more rules than timyoshi! |
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Post by joshi on May 29, 2004 20:18:47 GMT -5
I wonder about that too. Why is it that Soul is making all the rules? That's a very good point there Dancing Yoshi. Anyway, don't say anything more because he might "ban" you. Do not state your opinions in this section, they would be considered violation of rules, especially in a dictatorship.
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