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Post by red.yoshi on May 7, 2006 19:20:24 GMT -5
i'm just wondering, since when do we encourage affiliation with other boards? many people advertise boards in their signatures, and i also see an afiliation bar now with the "yoshi forum network" board being advertised. even if you are a staff member, this was not encouraged about 6 months ago, unless some new rule was established, or some new hidden rule was established (since i cannot find anything in the board rules or the bulletin board section) that allows us to affiliate and/or advertise other boards since i was away for about 3 weeks, i would still like to know about it.
just wondering.
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Post by dragonpaw on May 7, 2006 19:24:37 GMT -5
Most unfortunate.
Leave my posts alone.
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Post by boomiester on May 7, 2006 19:47:14 GMT -5
I was wondering about that too, though I don't really mind unless we start getting rabble from that forum.
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Post by Moot on May 7, 2006 20:16:04 GMT -5
I don't really see the significance, its just another board with a common interest linking back to us, theres a link to our board on their affiliate strip too.
I wouldn't think adding one link to the botton the page was something that particularly needed input from a whole bunch of people...
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on May 7, 2006 20:22:46 GMT -5
As I said in the Chat room...
First of all, YC has a much more strict ruleset.
Secondly, I would really appreciate it if you, Pawy, didn't label the entire forum as a place where Flamewars are a common occurence because they are always stopped by myself and other staff, and not everyone argues anyway so you're immediately labelling those that don't get involved with flaming, so I seriously suggest you are careful with your comments. Saying things like that can upset a lot of people on both that board and this one.
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Post by dragonpaw on May 7, 2006 20:30:03 GMT -5
Hey, hey, I don't mean to offend, PFY. I only said they have a tendency of sorts to that side of the spectrum. But if one affiliates with there, yes, there are pretty spiffy members there, but it also opens up both forums to more insubordinate members from both worlds. Like Joey could possibly see the link or a similar event from TYFN vice versa.
Yes, flamewars can be dealt with, but they do tend to create a lot of tension even after they are dealt with.
Just my opinion.
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on May 7, 2006 20:53:59 GMT -5
Hey, hey, I don't mean to offend, PFY. I only said they have a tendency of sorts to that side of the spectrum. But if one affiliates with there, yes, there are pretty spiffy members there, but it also opens up both forums to more insubordinate members from both worlds. Like Joey could possibly see the link or a similar event from TYFN vice versa. Yes, flamewars can be dealt with, but they do tend to create a lot of tension even after they are dealt with. Just my opinion. Joey might see it, but he'll just get banned, like every other time he's tried getting on here. Problematic people are always spotted really quickly. If you don't want to go there, thats fine, you don't have to click the link or anything. There's no disadvantage to having the link there in all honesty, but we will add to the constitution information regarding the whole affiliation thing. From my point of view, I think on one half, the whole 'affiliation' thing is new, and they're unsure about what this 'change' could bring. Others dislike it because they feel it's going to bring more troublemakers here. In retaliation to this, TYFN is a sound community and is well managed by myself and another admin (I joined TYFN way before I joined the YC, so I've been there long enough to understand the various people we attract). Also, the only 'change' it brings to the Yoshi's Corner is the link at the bottom. Yoshi's Corner gets advertising, TYFN gets advertising. Win-win situation there methinks. Of course, comments and suggestions are welcome, my only issue is the way TYFN was labelled as a place where flamewars are a common occurence. It's not, it never has been and the staff are as active as they have ever been, so nothing bad could come of the affiliation. Nothing that I see, anyway. TYFN has had the affiliation thing since it's conception, and we've never had anything but great results from it. And no, Pawy, I'm not being biased or anything if you see me as though I am, I just really didn't like your comment showing TYFN to be a haven for flamers. Saying something like that is asking for trouble because you're labelling a whole community as flamers when 90% of them don't get involved. Thats where my gripe is. I can see where your post came from, but in my opinion, that was extremely unfair to simply judge an entire community as flamers. |
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Post by on May 7, 2006 21:04:13 GMT -5
I don't see why everyone is so worried about a little affiliation. On the site I moderate, we are affiliated with about 10 or so websites, and we have yet to have any problems from it. They have brought us some new members, and the worst they have done was bring in a couple of people who just joined and never posted after their introduction thread.
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Post by red.yoshi on May 7, 2006 21:19:05 GMT -5
i would still like to know ahead of time before this stuff happens, maybe have a poll so the members of the forum could decide. this appeared and took me by surprise, i was once a member of tyfn too, but my account mustof gotten deleted while the site was hacked. i like this forum better, in my opinon, better people, and a nicer enviorment. just, please staff, tell us when you are going to do somthing like this again, and warn us ahead of time. i would like to know.
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Post by Moot on May 7, 2006 21:26:43 GMT -5
...its a link. its not a huge board shattering change.
who says you have to look at it or click it? an 88x31 banner is fairly easy to ignore...
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Post by red.yoshi on May 7, 2006 21:32:05 GMT -5
it does catch my eye, the dark purple on the light blue. it is a large change from the old rules to me.
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Post by Moot on May 7, 2006 21:36:30 GMT -5
...no it isn't? who said the rules changed?
Honestly, it just sounds to me like you're pulling reasons out of your ass now.
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Post by red.yoshi on May 7, 2006 21:39:43 GMT -5
thats it, this isnt worth fighting over. were just acting immature now, cursing wont help solve anything. it left me quite shocked.
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Post by dragonpaw on May 7, 2006 21:42:48 GMT -5
Although it does kind of look out of place, I'm just kind of worried about social things. But hopefully we'll have smooth integration with the other forum for the members there that opt to join us, and all will be spiffy. I'm kind of frustrated no one actually asked for my input on it at first, though. Also, it would be nice if people would discuss things with me instead of just editing my posts. Oh well. Have a nice day with rainbows. And yeah.
So we'll see and we'll have fun.
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Post by Lord of the Dance on May 7, 2006 21:43:55 GMT -5
Question.
Weren't you guys sorta against affiliation just a while ago? Or is my memory failing me?
Just a question. The affiliation had me wondering, as well. Not that I have a problem with it.
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Post by Teo on May 7, 2006 22:32:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember Vapor getting talked to by admins about her sig... and now this.
Ah well, they'll make up their mind someday.
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on May 7, 2006 22:38:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember Vapor getting talked to by admins about her sig... and now this. Ah well, they'll make up their mind someday. Chances are, that was pre-administration re-shuffle. I've never been against the idea, however. Timyoshi was, but we have a new root admin now. With new staff comes a new outlook on things. I think people are making a huge deal out of nothing though, in all honesty. |
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Post by Moot on May 8, 2006 4:06:34 GMT -5
I think people are making a huge deal out of nothing though, in all honesty. Quoted for truth. |
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Post by dragonpaw on May 8, 2006 5:49:30 GMT -5
I don't, really. There are a few things that are very possible. A bit of bad foreshadowing is around. And I'd just like to say it's a good thing to have some sort of forewarning. This was very sudden.
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Post by Moot on May 8, 2006 8:17:56 GMT -5
I can only assume from your post that you're expecting flamers from tyfn to join here? At least, thats the vibe I'm getting from your posts and I can't really seem to think of any other way I could interpret it.
Like Pink said, if there were to be a mass influx of troublemakers its very likely that they'd be Killed On Sight pretty quickly, but I really can't imagine that happening. In the time I've visited TYFN there doesn't really seem to be anything like that. It seems like a pretty solid board, to me at least.
But hey, sometimes admins do things that the rest of the members aren't informed about. Now if this was a substantial change, like changing the rules, or adding boards, or something I would expect a news post describing the change. But really, one 88x31 image link right at the bottom of the page isn't really something that needs to be given warning. If its that obnoxious surely you can just AdBlock it if you're using Firefox...
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