Shadow's got a Gun (Shadow the Hedgehog)

[Yink]

does it look good to anyone...i love the fact that a simple hedgehog has a Shotgun!

[PinkFloydYoshi]

Heh, I thought that was one of the silly aspects of it. It's no longer 'classic sonic'. Call me an oldbie. I'm just not into the new games. I think Sega have gone backwards, rather than forward. I preferred the earlier Sonic games.

I'm not totally 'in' with the idea they've eqipped shadow with a gun. Fan's of the origial Sonic series may also agree that the idea of giving Shadow a gun was a bad one because Sonic's hardcore fan's would be distressed in seeing a Sonic related character being shot (A similar argument started on another forum surrounding the appearence of Mario and Yoshi in Metal Gear Solid:Twin Snakes, in clear view of being shot, and SSBM, where Yoshi could be shot by Fox).

Fan's can react to different things in different ways. It's a well known fact, that almost 60-70% of Yoshi fan's don't like violent games, and seeing Yoshi become involved in a game where he is able to be shot can have adverse effects on younger fans. The same applies to Sonic fans.

Just my 2 cents.

[Enrique]

Yeah, PFY, I like the older Sonic games as well.

[Wildfire the Dragon]

It mostly depends on how Yoshi is shot. I'm not really used to violent game yet but I plan to try some.
As for the classic Sonic the Hedgehog series, I think Sonic Mega Collection is a good choice. I love the orginal and others like Sonic Adventure,Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, and the Sonic Advance Series.
Now back to the topic, I would love to play Shadow the Hedgehog game. At least it figures out what really happen to Shadow in SA2. I think that Shadow with a gun is pretty good since the only shooting game I played besides SSBM is Star Fox Assult. I think it's coming out in November. I'll buy it though.

[Lord of the Dance]

I don's want to see the Sonic guys running around with guns. It's just wrong, and now I won't be allowed to buy it. I totally agree with PFY. It may unveil what happened after SA2, but that doesn't mean I want to buy it. I think Sega, or at least Sonic Team, took a big step back. They've just gone downhill since Sonic Adventure DX. Sonic Heroes, in my opinion, was a challenging game, but the character interactions and ending stunk. Now, they make you buy this Shadow game in order to understand everything.

[Lazo]

Hmhm, looks like I'm the 30% that does. Most unfortunate.

This whole Shadow-machinegun still doesn't seem right, though. As far as I can tell, the whole point of the Sonic games was to run fast, collect rings, jump or spin into things and remove Robotnic from the game. The machinegun just seems too... random for me. It doesn't follow the rest of the series at all.

[Wildfire the Dragon]

Well the rules of the Sonic the Hedgehog game still apply. The only thing I know that not only Eggman will try to stop you, but G.U.N is after you too. You still have to collect rings to stay alive, Destroy enemies with Barrel Roll and Spin Dash, the only thing is that you're only playing Shadow and you can use a gun. It's still a Sonic Game, just a little different. Besides, this might bring Sega up a bit.

[Lord of the Dance]

I think it'll bring them down. I'm not allowed to play games with guns, so I won't be playing it anytime soon.

[Digi]

I think it's a bad move. Giving Shadow a gun is bad for the younger kiddies. And they're saying Shadow can't kill these machines without a gun when he used to be able to. >_> How did he get the gun, anyway? He doesn't need it. Shadow can beat this game without a gun. >_> I'm not going to get this game..

[sui]

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but with that episode, the Sonic series are f@#$ed. That Sonic Heroes game not was a "big blast" neither - but this, ehh... why a Sonic game need to show a face like "wowimcool"? Especially, why with a method like this? "wowimcoolcuzihave_a_gunnn!". Get across the hype, this game is a bad, sad try to do something with the "Sonic" franchise...

I rather buy the old Sonic the Hedgehog for SEGA MegaDrive two times more, than I get this game once...

[Wildfire the Dragon]

Well what I been hearing about the game is a few things:
1. This isn't really a Sonic game, this is a Sonic Game Spin-Off so this doesn't really count as a Sonic Game
2. Having a gun isn't really a bad thing. Don't forget that Fox used a gun is Assault and the game was still good.
3. Shadow has been using weapons like the Chaos Emerald. You can't say that Chaos Spear won't kill you.
4. Don't forget Eggman and Tails had a Gun in Sonic Adventure 2: Battle on their walkers.
5. The gun is just a attack, not really a weapon to use alone...

I got this info on the Neoseeker Forums. But, that's your opinion, not mine so that's up to you.

[PinkFloydYoshi]

We're having a similar debate on another forum, but about the GTA type of games, and the way violence seems to make a game good nowadays.

After the MD, the sonic games went downhill.

In my opinion, using a gun is a sign of cowardice because all you need to do to incapacitate your enemy, is pull the trigger, and it's all over. Going in there and beating your enemy senseless is more my thing (I'm the sort of person who fist fights with Hunters in the first Halo, rather than using a weapon to silence it - You might see me enjoying Starfox adventures, since fox uses a stick as opposed to a gun you can use to incapacitate your enemy from feet away).

Bleh, Sega are running the Sonic series into the ground, and they're ruining it.

Again, I'll leave my opinions with you.

[penguinyoshi]

Why are you complaining that it is runing sonic games when it is a whole new tile it is shadow not sonic. Ya well i hope this is better the heros. he doesnt use the shotgun right away he has this little laser pistol thing. If you dont like the idea dont buy it. I think sonic games need a little twist off. It is all the same run through the level and get coins.

Btw yoshee if you arnt allowed to play games with guns then why can you play Sonic adventure battle 2 the guns on the mechs. How bout SSBM fox and falco have guns. Then the pickup is a gun.

[Yoshi4ever]

Ya i saw that on the front of Nintendo power. Looks like shadows gonna own!


oh btw just because he has a gun doesn't mean the games gonna be bad. Geeze! I mean afterall it's not sonic.

[boomiester]

I heard that the guns are optional and you don't need them to complete the game, still it seems like video games are all resorting to violence now.

[Enrique]

Concerning the SSBM thing, the guns account for a collective three attacks, not the whole game, like most others, where guns are required for the entire idea of the game.

[Yoshi4ever]

Ya I know what you mean. To few platformers like mario now adays. Only other 'non violent' games are racing and sports. And a few games out there that don't have violence.

But shadow does kinda look cool with a motor cycle and all..

Though, like enrique said they usually are not the focuse of the game.

[Moot]

..Why does Shadow need a motorcycle, when previous games already established he can run at super high speeds?

Having a gun isn't really a bad thing. Don't forget that Fox used a gun is Assault and the game was still good.

Bear in mind Fox goes around blasting guys with Arwings and Landmasters too, its not like using guns is new to him. Sonic games are meant to be about speed, not pulling a piece on someone. Sega seems to have a knack for making Sonic games bad nowadays, it seems

[Lord of the Dance]

I agree with Frog. It's not like guns are new to Fox. For Sonic games, though, they established he could run at super high-speeds, destroy baddies by jumping and hitting them, and Shadow could even teleport anyways. I think Sonic Team's going down the drain, especially after the Sonic Heroes masterpiece Challenging game, good graphics, but still terrible.

[Enrique]

I guess now Sega either:
a) hand the Sonic series to another company
or
b) discontinue it

My best guess is that Sega won't do the latter, and nor the former as well. So I guess now the Sonic series is probably doomed for the worst.