The browser wars

[Soul]

Watch out, here comes another geeky topic!

I've been using Firefox for months, and I was really happy... That is, until the "work offline" function died. It simply will not cache ANY documents or images ever. I even tried uninstalling and then reinstalling it. Still didn't work. (and I was annoyed to see that it didn't really uninstall itself properly, i.e. all my FF plugins were STILL there) So I am getting sick of Firefox. If I don't find a fix for this problem soon, I'm going back to IE... At least with IE I know how to fix it when it starts to not use its own cache at all (when index.dat is full of entries). It was fun and all to work with an open-source browser for a while, but it's still too young a program for me.

Anybody else has any gripes over IE(Internet Explorer) or FF(Firefox)? Post them below

[Yoshino]

ok, first thing...wow. did you have my worst nightmare with an internet browser.
the only thing that really bothers about IE is that is really slow unless you get broadband, or DSL (which I have) but other than that I guess I really don't have a problem with my browser.

[boomiester]

I personally hate IE, it slows down my computer (P4, 512ram)
to the point of crashing when I also have Winamp or Media player open. When I do get IE to work, it slows my download speed to about half of what it is in Netscape (I use the Netscape browser).

[Moot]

Firefox is fine here, had no trouble with until an odd crash lost all my bookmarks, themes and extensions, but that just turns out that the userprofiles had been switched along the way somewhere.

[Lazo]

The big problem I have with Internet Explorer is that it crashes without fail every time it's opened.

[Tempest]

Frog, that happened to me too. Do you know how to switch back the user profiles?

[Moot]

I put

firefox.exe -profilemanager

into the Run box in the start menu, that let me pick up my old profile again, but if the firefox.exe on its own doesn't work, finding the .exe in the program files then putting -profilemanager after it should work.

[red.yoshi]

i use ie and its fine. i do prefer firefox and netscape though. i wonder why that happened soul...

[Vizsual]

Firefox's fine here.
IE Too. But everytime i open ie the popups come!

[Enrique]

The Windows LEVEL UP ! ! SP2 version of IE comes with blockers built in, but sometimes they're annoying.

[madyoshi]

use safari or mozila

[Enrique]

madyoshi said:

use safari or mozila

Safari only works on Mac.
Mozilla = Firefox

[madyoshi]

i know and have a mac i am using safari NOW

[Moot]

enrique said:

madyoshi said:

Mozilla = Firefox

Mozilla and Firefox are two different browsers, that just use the same rendering engine as each other.

[sui]

Yeah, while Mozilla is a complete application package for internet surfing - web browser, e-mail client, HTML editor and IRC client... all in one, full service... - then Firefox is just a browser, simply. Of course, you can tune up the Fox of Fire with plug-ins, add-ons, extensions... or what, but that isn't the same. The big problem with Mozilla from my eyeview is its memory usage... it really slows down my compy, whaa :( (if it does not do that, I'm sure I use that as a primary browser). I use Firefox, by the way...

[Rainbow Yoshi]

IE is always messed up when I use it..I can't add favorites, delete favorites, or go to favorites..
I have no problems with Fire Fox though.

[Vizsual]

Data Sending is Different

Firefox:
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: 127.0.0.1:5555
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 Firefox/1.0.3
Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Cookie: I won't show it

IE 6
GET / HTTP/1.1
Accept: */*
Accept-Language: en-us
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows NT 5.0)
Host: 127.0.0.1:5555
Connection: Keep-Alive

IE6 use mozilla 4
Firefox use Mozilla 5

So User-Agent determines you are using which browser or Media Player, which windows
Like ShoutCast
If User-Agent is Mozilla, it will send HTML content (HTTP Protocol)
if not It will send ICY Data (ICY Protocol)

Go here to view your user-agent
62sv2.hopto.org:5555/
for me: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 Firefox/1.0.3
I just write this program!

[PinkFloydYoshi]

The user/browser agent isn't reliable though. You can get an extension in FF that allows you to change the agent to whatever you want. A program I use called 'ReGet' allows me to change it too, without any addon's. I think IE does too.

FireFox 1.0.3? Thats an old version. 1.0.4 came out not too long ago.

Methinks you may need to clear your FireFox's 'profile' folder. Uninstalling FireFox doesn't get rid of this information.

Mine's located here:
C:\Documents and Settings\pinkfloydyoshi.HOME\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox

So, you'd probably want follow that path, replacing my name with yours, and ghosting the content, then deleting it. You might even find the property by looking in about:config in firefox.

[Moot]

An extension I got borked my useragent and made it so I couldn't even access the Themes/Extensions page of mozilla.org...

As far as I can remember deleting something from about:config fixes it though