yc dying?

[firespikez]

whats happening to yc? instead of missing members like yaf, now its like kinda boring... art requests are gone,not much recent posts exept in here... whats happening?

Hmm... I'm seeing that as well. I think all the action moved to YC chat.


But really, it's not about it dying, it's about what we can do to make it "alive" again. We all need to be actively posting and stuff. D:

...yep that's it.

[Not-Garr]

Not many people were filling art requests, and the midterms are just ending for people in school (which is the majority of this forum). Things'll pick up again for sure, and you failed to notice the Art sections are as active as ever.

I don't see any significant slowdown in Yoshi's Corner's activity.

[Strangie]

I see new posts just about every day, so it's not dying. And there's ALWAYS plenty of activity in the chat, and that's Yoshi's Corner just as much as this forum is. So in that regard, I think Yoshi's Corner is very active, thank you.

[Yoshi]

There are shifts and changes in patterns of how people act. These times of years are very busy for people, as those in highschool and below get new semesters/tests, and those in universities adjust to new schedules and the first rounds of tests, which usually determine whether or not they'll drop a given course.

These days most of the activity seems to be centered in the gaming section. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but I agree there could be a greater effort to put up topics and threads in other areas as well. I have a few half-built ones in my mind that'll be shoved up in a few days.

[plebanshiren]

Don't forget there are like, 40 active members on YAF at one time, here....there's like 3 at a time, and most people don't post here unless they have something very vital to add to a discussion and such. Personally I like a quite forum, not too busy yet not deserted.

[Masakuni]

Ah, it still at least gets a few posts a day, I don't think it's dying. And the slow pace is kinda nice sometimes ^^ and the members are pretty cool too

[Zippy]

If you ask me, I'd say that there is a considerable amount of inactivity at this forum compared to when I first joined here back in the summer of 2005. And I'm sure some of the members that have been here as long as I have would agree. It's kinda sad really to see this happening. I mean, there are times when I can wonder online in the middle of the day or in the late evening and find no one here. That surprising really.

I want to say that there is also a huge decline in new members. It's very rare that we get new members here, but a while back, it was a pretty common happening. How do the newer members even find us? I don't know, but do we even have an affiliate anymore other than that other yoshi forum down at the bottom of the page? It also seems that some of the older members have moved on or have become pretty inactive here. I've even noticed that quite a few of them have deleted their accounts. I wonder if this could be partly because of the decline in activity here, but I don't know.

[Yoshiken]

Eh, I do not think that a decline is occuring ^^. In about March, I expect there to be a fairly decent amount of posting done.

(y= sin x) = Yoshis Corner activity.

[Yoshifrog]

It seems many of the members have semi-outgrown this place, and there aren't enough new members to fill in the spaces. But yeah, this place is inatctive. Duh, is what I say.

Zip brought up a nice point, though-
The chatroom thing sort of substituted the Cafe, RP section, and most every other talking forum.
Deviantart now dominates most of our artwork posting.
This place is kind of useless now, in his words.

Ooo, yeah, stealing his ideas.

Anyway, for all who care, if this place continues its stretch of vacancy, you'll have one less member. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

[Teo]

Er... yeah I moved to the chat. In fact, I've been there for quite a few days now, which explains why you never see ME now

[Zippy]

teo said:

Er... yeah I moved to the chat. In fact, I've been there for quite a few days now, which explains why you never see ME now

Thanks! That'll do to prove one of my points...

I see it that Yoshi's Corner the forum doesn't have a purpose anymore. I mean, practically everything that used to go on around the forums goes into that chatroom now. The cafe is replaced, the games section is replaced, the RP section is replaced, all of it. Heck even art doesn't have a meaning. Most of us have DA accounts, and the lack of people who actually do pay attention to the newer art threads at here is a real turn away. Heck, I'd rather post at DA any day over here. No one ever says anything anymore, it's sad. If we all have accounts at DA that we double with posting art, then there isn't a need for art. Polls can happen at DA, journals can be done there, etc. I don't hate the chatroom, I'm just sad that none of the activities seem to be spreading to what we all gathered together for in the first place, yoshi. And even yoshi doesn't seem to get much attention anymore.

While Yoshi's Corner the forum is choking, Yoshi's Corner the chatroom is prospering. I wish that there was, at least, some balance in this system. I'm just saddened because of it. It makes me miss what Yoshi's Corner used to be. How I first saw it when I came here. BUT, everyone is BLIND to see that it is fading. There's a definite sign of inactivity if the RP section hasn't been updated in over a month. But no, that's in the chatroom as well, isn't it?

I'm done now. If anyone wants to hear anymore, I got some. Just inform me. Don't kill me for saying these things, but I just have to get them out there. I'm sick of only talking about this to a select few people.

[teh yoshi]

You know what I think we need?

An actual website.

[Yoshi Vert]

tehyoshi said:

You know what I think we need?

An actual website.

I agree with you... I discovered Yoshi Art on year 2003 (or 2002, don't remember). I joined the forum only on middle 2005 but it's because I knew about yoshiart.com. The new people we used to have on YC are registering in YAF because YAF is directly linked with yoshiart.com wich is a well-known website.

Need references...

[Not-Garr]

edoshi said:

teo said:

Er... yeah I moved to the chat. In fact, I've been there for quite a few days now, which explains why you never see ME now

Thanks! That'll do to prove one of my points...

I see it that Yoshi's Corner the forum doesn't have a purpose anymore. I mean, practically everything that used to go on around the forums goes into that chatroom now. The cafe is replaced, the games section is replaced, the RP section is replaced, all of it. Heck even art doesn't have a meaning. Most of us have DA accounts, and the lack of people who actually do pay attention to the newer art threads at here is a real turn away. Heck, I'd rather post at DA any day over here. No one ever says anything anymore, it's sad. If we all have accounts at DA that we double with posting art, then there isn't a need for art. Polls can happen at DA, journals can be done there, etc. I don't hate the chatroom, I'm just sad that none of the activities seem to be spreading to what we all gathered together for in the first place, yoshi. And even yoshi doesn't seem to get much attention anymore.

While Yoshi's Corner the forum is choking, Yoshi's Corner the chatroom is prospering. I wish that there was, at least, some balance in this system. I'm just saddened because of it. It makes me miss what Yoshi's Corner used to be. How I first saw it when I came here. BUT, everyone is BLIND to see that it is fading. There's a definite sign of inactivity if the RP section hasn't been updated in over a month. But no, that's in the chatroom as well, isn't it?

I'm done now. If anyone wants to hear anymore, I got some. Just inform me. Don't kill me for saying these things, but I just have to get them out there. I'm sick of only talking about this to a select few people.

Well, first of all, I'd like to point out the forum allows posting of ideas that are much more...substantial, than the random nonsense that goes on in the chat. It's not replacing anything, but rather adding a different kind of interaction between members, a place to quickly get notifications across, and other things.

As for the art thing, art is still posted and commented upon here, I see it every day.

And finally (since I run the RP chatroom), I'd like to point that the #YCRP chatroom is not meant to replace the RP section at all, as chatroom RPs cannot possibly replace a forum RP, I blame the current inactivity due to a lack of ideas combined with, face it, this is a busy time of year, Zip. People don't have as much free time what with getting used to changing school schedules and other such events.

The forums aren't being replaced or made obsolete, the chatroom is simply bound to gain much more activity due to its' nature being instantaneous. And if you don't want the forum to die, then I think the best way would be to use it.

Also, yes, we need a website!

And a quick reply to what Teo said; Hahahahhaa, yeah, sure you've moved to the chat, I've seen you in there a grand total of twice. LEVEL UP ! !

[Fluory]

I'm making a website for the YC newspaper at the moment. Yes, it took me an era; shut up. >_> Now the spiffy idea of the YC newspaper may finally get some usage. Huzzah!

So, political post time!

I have to say that the YC is suffering from a loss of activity, new users joining, and like all those cool things really big and ugly forums have. Does the YC have cancer? No, it does not; I would not venture to say it is dying in the slightest. Winter is probably one of the worst times for 'net activity. There's school, there's freezing to death, and people tend to just be wrapped up in school mostly -- especially since kids don't have all day to do stuff like in the summer.

Do I think that this activity decline will continue? Why.. yes, I do. Probably not indefinately, and I doubt the YC is going to die -- it's just that there doesn't seem to be as much exposure of the YC anymore (new users joining factor) and a lack of interest/school factor (moving on, social disputes, et cetera.) I don't think that this issue will resolve itself overnight, but stuff will happen that will make this place more active. Actually, school has never really occupied me, but I take it non-hicktown highschools are more chaotic than mine.

The only YC thing that's particularily thriving is the chat. It's also probably the bringer of social and political genocide (with some creativity sacrificed for massive damage), but we'll just walk away from this at the moment. #yc does get a fair amount of turbulence and use -- and is, more or less, a really convienant substitute for things such as the general chat, insistant and annoying downtimes aside. Then again, not every member can/does go in there as often as they're on the board/ever, but it's still probably the most active thing.

Art's still posted.. although not as much (I'd say "blame school" with more energy if it weren't for the fact that school is the only reason why I've made more than one picture per month lately due to sketching time) as it used to be. A lot of threads are by the same person posting singular threads and not consolidating them, but there are some other threads.. not much as much as there used to be, though.

I can't say the RP section was ever particularily cool or active to a high degree aside from in some short bursts, but that's something that doesn't have a real replacement or substitute in the chat. The RP section has been pretty dead for a very longtime -- but maybe that's just the Poe in me talking. The cynic Poe.

It'll get resolved soon enough. A website was something that I've thought for a while would be a good idea, but I don't know whether or not that kind of thing would truly be made. It would be a good way to grab new members after a while, though -- especially since word-of-mouth and dA seems to be floundering a bit in efficiency lately. Blame school, though.

Well, this was fun. n_n

[Zippy]

I'm not done yet!

bathroomrage said:

Well, first of all, I'd like to point out the forum allows posting of ideas that are much more...substantial, than the random nonsense that goes on in the chat. It's not replacing anything, but rather adding a different kind of interaction between members, a place to quickly get notifications across, and other things.

As for the art thing, art is still posted and commented upon here, I see it every day.

And finally (since I run the RP chatroom), I'd like to point that the #YCRP chatroom is not meant to replace the RP section at all, as chatroom RPs cannot possibly replace a forum RP, I blame the current inactivity due to a lack of ideas combined with, face it, this is a busy time of year, Zip. People don't have as much free time what with getting used to changing school schedules and other such events.

The forums aren't being replaced or made obsolete, the chatroom is simply bound to gain much more activity due to its' nature being instantaneous. And if you don't want the forum to die, then I think the best way would be to use it

I'm not saying that the art doesn't exist anymore. I'm just saying that comments on pieces are a lot more scarce than they used to be in the past. I do notice that people who post art quite frequently are sometimes annoyances, but common people, you can still find something to say about anything. I agree strongly with what Yoshifrog said on that topic a little while back. I even get a feeling that there is quite a bit of favoritism out there too. It's sad to say, but there's a possibility of us losing an older member because of these few things. The person feels like his/her art, opinions, and comments are being ignored. I agree to some extent as well.

I don't want Yoshi's Corner to fade away from what it used to be. It's all out of my abilities to do much about it's position now though, and it leads me to question a bit. The admins need to get off of their asses and find us an affiliate! Other than that, what's their purpose? I mean, nothing happens around here anymore for them to monitor anyways. Half the staff members here are inactive or just stop by every now and then to let us know of their existence. What are they doing to help out Yoshi's Corner? Very little! If one has accepted the role of being a staff member of a forum, that person has made a commitment to it and should be as active as any other member. They have agreed to take on the enjoyable and difficult parts of managing a board, and it does the board absolutely no good if these members decide to remain absent from their duties. I do see that there are some times that a member will not be able to login on a regular schedule, however, I do not see how a few weeks of absence can be tolerated.

And yes, Teh! I've discussed that websight idea of yours a few times and I think it is an excellent idea! There's not really going to be any other way to let people know that we exist.

[Fluory]

You sound like me a year ago. That means..

I must say things. :D

Anyvay, here's what I think and have to suggest, tempest of controversy or not.

Staff. Inactive. Two words you can put together. May not be so inactive in the way of prescence and posts (and then there's some that aren't present about at all; but congrats on having a pretty present team in general), but.. they're not really doing much of anything in the way of board functions, decisions, ideas (at least from what I've seen and heard), and that website is appealing. There's been several good ideas suggested by Contention and Lazo in the past that never really got off the ground. So, basically, in other words.. Making a few more contests/competitions, or really anything that would command social attention or activity. There's a lot of possible stuff to do, I'm sure. Sketch it out and employ it!

The website would be good if done right. With actual content that's unique while still supplying the basics. I have some ideas along the lines of some random stuff for a website/forum to be kept in mind; mostly in the areas of artistical stuff and tutorials, though. Not too sure if more forum-based affiliates are needed -- I think the website would cover a good bit of publicity. So would artistic contests that people talk about a lot on dA or something. :l Or something.

Favoritism in art is there. Kiss up to people or doing random fanart is probably the best way to gain artistic favor. Lots of skill not required. Or, at least, building up a large social network constitutes for this kind of artistic favor, too. And this is why no one looks at my art. n__n It's a pretty sad way of doing things, but that's how it's been done. Makes my utilitarian spirit sad.

The Yoshi's Corner can live without any change, but I think it would be more meager than if there was some sort of positive and active change proposed. So.. I suggest some little urges towards activity -- it's what the psychologist would perscribe. It's what two of your members say, too. Now we need a community that is less a society but rather more free-thinking. But I can dream on.

[Contention]

In acceptance to what the whole of Auric's message had stated, the Yoshi's Corner in and of itself is farthest from it's own inevitable death. Like any place, as before writ, the Yoshi's Corner is a society by certain criteria. Therefore, the gears of the community are constantly run by the people; all of which turn in unison. Logically, if the spring in a clock is greatly strained; the rest to follow will shortly slow. Each piece of the puzzle interacts with one another. If, by chance, a domino is to fall; won't all the others fall aside it? Not only pulled by gravity, but shoved from one to one. A community follows through the same suit, and is layered in similiar patterns. When building a civillization, many must take into consideration the fellowship of government and fundamentalism. Extending from such points, comes the people; all of which are strapped in a knot. Imagine every member of a group as a piece of string; wound and woven, snug tight. If one were to take away a piece of string, would not the load become but an ounce lighter? In essence, all remarked is that in order for a society to pledge a thriving value, the members must learn to stick together.

Here is where the door swings wide open, the kingdom that is this keep seems greatly uneven. Where there was once a group of allies, alterations were made. A lot of notions seen at the YC, are not that of hatred and disgust, but more of a clickish type of power. In a bred foundation the people should be led by an administrative position. That of which Lazo is, and that of which he completes with the utmost of all tasking. Yet, in the place of the chair, has come something a lot more elusive. Something that highly goes unviewed in many communities; usually passed as a mere "cold", nothing destructive to spread. Many say it could never form a virus, to bounce from body to body. However, it always seems to deny them; wrapping it's claws deeply into the flesh, and taking what it finds for comfort.

Much of the "debunkle" from the main board is not caused by outward stress. School, may indeed, have it's own reasons for causing some to stay away from the computer. In that token though, school can also be managed with time. Someone once stated that even the most strenous of students found their amusment online through weekdays. Then again, many may rebuttle by remarking that "everyone manages their time diffrently"; if this is the case, than school may have it's own "guilty pleasure" behind the "lag" of the Yoshi's Corner. However, realistically, the growth of the Yoshi's Corner has long stopped. Likely, if someone were to make a chart; just as in life, the beginning shows the highest sprout. Where we are now, is that of the period in which silence sets in. Something that few have called the "Dead Motion". That in which everything begins to die, it may not be dead nor gone, but it is not enlarging. Even in life, we experience this stage; a time where our bodies have finished their journies, and our minds are set in knowledge. We look forward, and can only await our own demise. Of course, this does not play as the main goal; it just remains unavoidable.

When the Yoshi's Corner was created, it was given the dream to someday become one of the main Yoshi boards. Many kept their eyes glued to it's pages; watching its every stroke. They became addicted, and thus the board went rolling. For as the story goes, you invite one person and they invite their friends. So on and so forth. Of course, during that time you will pick up the dead weight. Those that join and then sit aside, as if they merely curled up and died. You may hear one or two peeps from their selfless lips. The others though, those you see around you; established the walls in which you inhabit. They built every thread, and made the board what it used to be. This place had it's period of flourishment, the era in which all things could feed from the mirth. Where popularity was nourished, and perhaps it is this that began the slow spiral down.

We may call them the kings and lords of every town, of every city, of every school, and every street. You can find them anywhere, up and down or all around; those that require the main head of attention. Always at the tippy top of the scale, sitting there with groupies around. Their hard "earned" eyes looking down, glazing over every single limpless body. Wondering, just wondering, as to whom they may choose next. To add them, like pawns, into their dearest game. Moreso, if properly put; that of a gang. It exist in every community, and follows more correctly with the term of "Click". Usually illustrated around a main figure head, or character. These exist here, and it's not to say that they couldn't, it's unavoidable. However, this is one reason that much demise has come to the boards. Long ago, in the beginning, everyone was once very complete. They had themselves, arm for arm, tied together as friends. As they grew, they likely knew that in time such would split. Yet they never realized that in getting older, they would become wiser and diffrent. They would change, and hatred would spew; they would gain anger, disgust, and an unwelcome uncanny attitude.

When you were younger and looked outside, things most likely looked diffrent than they do today. You can probally recall the brighter scents of things; innocent little parts to a soft gentile town. A town full of bliss, education, and happiness. Where parents would come home, excited to see their children, to see you. Everything always went your way, even when you were punished. Something would happen, it would end, and you would wind up understanding everything about your wrongs. Then you grew up, and you started to look through the other eye. Instead of only acknowledging the positive, you could see the rancid; you could see the woe. Those crooked buildings, those twisted towers; dewed in metals, rained in acid. Why, they became your only source of nature. Mother and father, they would change to; more focused on your education, stressing you to do what they saw as correct. Things got a "little" out of tune, didn't they?

Never look at this board any diffrent, it's not the same as it used to be. This must be realized; the happy little home fell down a long time ago. People grew debate, they split; and their veins still pump with ambition, only cultured. The saying eye to eye, is not used to so valiantly. Today, it's more of a "eye to eye", whom can kill whom first. "We" wrap ourselves up in groups of friends and mock the others, and start to take pedestals. "We" throw the others back, and continue upwards; knowing that "we" deserve the highest of all altitudes. "We" want that spotlight, "we" need it to survive. It's not about making friends anymore, it's about becoming popular. It's about gaining those ties, in order to climb to the pinnacle. Our backs are against each other, more than they are behind us; and at times, it seems many a knife snaps a spine. Who knows what contradiction lies even deeper in the spew of this place, the mucky filth that hides it so. Or do we even want to know? People come here still, and wind locked up in some other situation; caught in the net of someone fishing for "members". The board loses intrest, on all these behalfs. From being stressed in school, all the way to being occupied in the life of everyone else.

Our home may indeed be the chat; a small little sample of what "YC used to be", if the Yoshi's Corner was now. Every board goes through it's change, and this we must take into heart. There will always be a period without movement, if any. This does not sign death, it does not mean all has faded. Memories will always be here, good and bad; and much more creates outside of this place. Oh, the Yoshi's Corner will always exist; it's not as much of a board, as it is a melodrama. It's stuck, forevermore, in our hearts and minds. Welcome like brothers and sisters alike, and that of which we call each other.

This is not the dark ages, this is not the Medieval ruin. The board still lives, like a pumping pipe. It may rust and sometimes leak, leaving pressure astray. But, this does not sign that the thread is totally broken. In order to regain stability, control must first be elevated. How we do that, let it be known on it's own hedge. The ruler of this board, has hands unlike any other; but many other "hands" scratch for the same goal. This isn't death, this is purgatory; and to leave purgatory, you must solve the puzzle.

(And as Auric mentioned above, even the addition of contest would not work to revive what the board is or was. The board has become such a melting pot of popularity, that if any idea is bred, another covers it. In the mention of, lets say you bet a gold coin. Then another bets a thousand, and then another a million; and one of those, doesn't even have the coverage).

[Twi]

I personally think that YC is far from dying, but then again it depends what you class as "dying". I suppose it's true to say that it's not as active but still has the activity there. This website will do good things and it'll bring the community together I think to help with it, depending on how that'll go. Unfortunately the tournaments that Strangie ran weren't as well received, but this YCDnD thing that's coming will surely bring some of the activity back and draw a few new faces into the midst.

As for the Staff inactivity Auric mentioned, I see it as more a good sign and also the staff there aren't needed. Most the staff keep order in the boards on YC, and having a fair few can help to just keep everything in order; as there is little disruption, they don't need to act as much. I still think that we should have the mods there. If we had less mods and the few were infact away on personal reasons the board would have no enforcers. I suppose the point is that the more you have the more back-up there is.