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Post by Teo on Sept 20, 2004 18:06:50 GMT -5
Ouch, maybe you should stay idle. If you don't know what to think, I don't think supporting anyone would be an idea. Nor' getting attached to one side and finding it gets sued or shut down.
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on Sept 20, 2004 18:10:13 GMT -5
As I said previously, Spamming YLF makes US just as bad. There are some really nice members of YLF and it's not fair to punish people that haven't even done anything.
We have a right to support YS and I still do, I cannot condone what YY has done because what he has done was wrong but If we go charging in with this mad attitude, we're all gonna be in tears.
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Post by Dragon on Sept 20, 2004 18:10:57 GMT -5
Uh guys, I think somebody from YL might know something, take a look at part of one of my posts here in this thread.
You guys definitly got my support!!! Besides, these are one of the best forums I've been in, it ain't pathetic at all. So count me as signed up!
Now look at this-
Anonmous
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Re: Yoshi Lore is the DEVIL
« Reply #114 on: Today at 3:14pm »
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That's a lie!
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Back to me, do you think "Anonmous" is just a troll, or is he yellow yoshi?
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on Sept 20, 2004 18:13:56 GMT -5
As I say, we can't just go in there and start spamming. It makes us just as bad.
Besides, They've got a good community there, it'd be wrong to spoil that. It'd be just like a bunch of idiots coming in here and wrecking the place.
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Post by Dragon on Sept 20, 2004 18:15:36 GMT -5
I'm not talking about spamming!!! I like Joshi's idea way better, sorry ys!
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on Sept 20, 2004 18:26:32 GMT -5
We're better than this and hopefully, we can live through it.
In my opinion, we should get rid of this thread as quickly as possible just incase yy does lose control of his vocabulary.
ys, if you're planning any action of any type, i'm still supporting you but I won't support going in there and spamming the place as it is still a nice community with alot of nice members that wouldn't do this atrocity.
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Post by Yoshi9 on Sept 20, 2004 18:32:35 GMT -5
I'm not thinking of posting spam there about this either, but you said the members there are nice, I know that too, becaue I go to the neverendingstory there, and I told all of them there about this. I told them because they have a right to know. You can nicely tell the people at the forum too, there is no need for spam. I'm not getting involved with the forim area there though, but I already am involved at NeverEndingStory, and I told them at the NeverEndingStory, to go here and read it for themselves.
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Post by Soul on Sept 20, 2004 18:48:04 GMT -5
It wasn't me who proposed the idea of spamming his board... We have no right to do that because they haven't done it here either. Besides, this "war" is against Yellow Yoshi, and not against the YL forum members, which have done nothing to harm me. But I wouldn't mind one or two threads with links to this thread  |
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on Sept 20, 2004 18:54:07 GMT -5
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Post by Dragon on Sept 20, 2004 18:57:15 GMT -5
Dude, I think you'll have to copy and paste it because some of us don't have an account there, it asked for an account. And I for one won't sign up on that should be forsaken board. Oh PinkFloyd, sorry if that offended you.
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on Sept 20, 2004 19:02:09 GMT -5
Ah, sorry. Here's yy's responce... Yellow Yoshi Posted: Sep 20 2004, 06:54 PM The Great Admin Group Icon Group: Site Admin Posts: 171 Member No.: 3 Joined: 20-September 03 Dear Yoshi Lore Members: Lately, a "Yoshi Soul" or "Yoshiru Ferrari" from www.yoshiart.com, has been claiming that Yoshi Lore has been stealing his content. However, ALL copyrighted content that is in Yoshi Lore, is being used with permission. When he asked me to remove all his copyrighted content, I did. An example of this is some of the sprites at www.yoshilore.com/Sprites.php. However, he wants to remove a HUGE list of files that I didn't even get from his website! He even reported me to my host. However, I proved my host that I do own those files, OR, that those files are official, such as some wallpapers or commercial videos. Since I will not remove those files, he has been going around telling people that I am a content stealer. Kimiyoshi, one of Yoshi Lore's greatest contributors, emailed me saying she wanted to quit because she had "found the truth about me"; that I steal content from other websites. This is not true! He said, that since I did not remove his content, he is gonna steal ALL my content, and post it all at his website! However, I have informed my host about this, and if he does steal all my content, they will legally act against him. Anyway, if you got an email/pm, or whatever (I dont really know what he's doing), letting you know that I'm a content stealer, don't believe that! He's just trying to make Yoshi Lore go down the drain. Those are the exact words he used in an email he sent me. Please, reply to this topic and let me know your opinion! ~Yellow Yoshi. My opinion seems to be the only level headed one there... PinkFloydYoshi Posted: Sep 20 2004, 11:58 PM Talkative Yoshi ** Group: Members Posts: 273 Member No.: 115 Joined: 12-June 04 Oh god. I'm right in the middle of this. I get on with the Admin's of Yoshi's corner and if yy did do that, crap.... The problem is, He does have alot of facts written up on the first page of the topic in question... If you did do this, and I don't want to be taking sides, it's wrong. If not, voice your opinion why in a calm manner and try not to go overboard with any language. Right now, because I think so wrongly of stealing the work of others, i'm backing ys... |
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Post by EIHoppe on Sept 20, 2004 19:10:11 GMT -5
First off, I'd like to introduce myself as EIHoppe. I currently act (and have acted for a year) as the administrator on the forums at Yoshi Lore. Before you start flogging me, I'd like to say that I was almost completely involved with the forums only.
I got myself the part when Yellow Yoshi asked for permission to use my Tetris Attack FAQ (Yes, the very one you happened to link to a long bit ago.). I thought on it a tad, and finally decided to accept, for at the time, Yellow Yoshi came off as a reasonable webmaster. (By the way, the only reason that a revised copyright statement in the GameFAQs rendition is author's negligence. Yellow Yoshi has left my FAQ unchanged.)
As time went on, I continued to make improvements to the forums and such, while learning that Yellow Yoshi (hence abbreviated YY for sake of time) can be rather stubborn, snobby, and downright power-crazy. He didn't want to let me make improvements to the forums of my own volition until recently--even though he know WELL that the forums wouldn't have gotten NEAR where they are today without my help. I decided to take the abuse quietly, mostly because I had taken the forums that far (even from the beginning, it was a significant change) and I didn't wish to see it all go for naught.
As for this particular accusation, I am announcing my neutrality in this situation. At the moment, all I'm getting is a "You did it!" "No I didn't!" argument from both sides. You do bring up good points in certain areas, however. As for the actual files themselves, it is very difficult to tell whether or not they were original and who did what first. It's a rather sticky situation, to be sure.
As a closing note, I'd just like to agree with BumMarioYoshi and PinkFloydYoshi with the fact that you shouldn't spam the forums simply because of what's happening on the site. Some may find the forums and extension of the site (and treat it as such), but I prefer to think of forums as their own entity. Something that shouldn't be dragged into a mess such as this. I try to keep the forums remotely under control (although, I admit, it is rather difficult at times), and I would like to keep it that way.
Regards;
~EIHoppe
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Post by EIHoppe on Sept 20, 2004 19:15:18 GMT -5
It appears, as I was typing, PinkFloydYoshi made another comment. Because of the lack of editing for guests (and the fact that I'd rather not register for a site I would likely easily forget about--no offense intended, but I am currently registered for six forums, and sometimes I neglect other smaller ones), I append this message here.
I agree with your statement at the end, PinkFloydYoshi, about the fact that when you are accused of something such as this, you should state your side calmly and not go overboard.
I had something else that popped in my mind, but it has left me at the moment. Oh well.
Regards;
EIHoppe
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Post by Yoshi clan on Sept 20, 2004 19:16:29 GMT -5
Okay! Crap! That anonomous was actually me! Sorry! I've really screwed up tis time!!! Just understand that I posted that 2 seconds after I read that thread. I did'nt want anyone to know it was me! Really!! Sorry! Crap!!
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Post by PinkFloydYoshi on Sept 20, 2004 19:19:32 GMT -5
ok, it's ok YC, Lets just sort this out calmly, I want us all to come out of this happy. k? Like in Yoshi's Story?(i.e. Happy ending)
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Post by Dragon on Sept 20, 2004 19:19:50 GMT -5
Oy, well, since you're not a troll and because you actually apologized, forget about what I set about getting out of here, sorry yoshi clan.
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Post by Yoshi Clan on Sept 20, 2004 19:20:23 GMT -5
yes. lets
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Post by Soul on Sept 20, 2004 19:20:34 GMT -5
That is NOT true. He only took off the only files that had copyright notices on them (most of the Yoshi's Island animations). He kept the rest. That is VERY simple. He may have taken them from other websites that in turn got them from me. That's absolutely no excuse. I would NEVER claim files that I didn't create. It is not my fault that I had to make this fight public, as YY completely ignored my requests for removing the content (which is the same as if he had said he wasn't going to remove a single file no matter what). If he would've replied, we could have reached an agreement. But YY, being stubborn as he is, didn't want to talk. I've had this issue for about 5 weeks now, to no avail. Through contacting his host I was able to force YY to remove about 5% of the files. But 5% is, of course, a mediocre amount. NOTE how he isn't saying that he is the creator of these files. He only said that he "didn't get them from my site". He just got them from somewhere else. So obviously, he didn't create these files. He did not prove anything. He only made his host realize that most of the other files left didn't have copyright notices and as such would be tough to remove through the law. I know this because his host told me he would not remove the files because he "didn't know who to believe". The ONLY reason that YY removed a couple of my files was because his host saw the copyright notice inside them, and so he was able to believe that I created those. And which is NOT a lie. LOL! YY and his host are complete fools! You can't claim content that you did NOT create! No legal action will work against me unless I take something that was genuinely created 100% by YY AND that he has proof of that. So I'll be careful not to take anything that would allow them to sue me for example, I can't take the game FAQs. They were not created by YY but they have their respective authors. While trying to remove my content off YY, I learned the exact procedures for removing copyrighted content. I know what has to be done, and I know that YY and his host can't fulfill all of the law's requirements. This is extremely funny, I am LMAO, how they think they'll be able to sue me. This time around, the tables are flipped; They are now the ones who have to prove that this content is truly theirs. And since it isn't, they are doomed. I'm only returning what you tried to do to my site. I have a bunch more things about the evil/bad things YY has done, it's just a matter of "digging them out". If necessary, I will. (It's a lot of work) |
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Post by Dragon on Sept 20, 2004 19:22:25 GMT -5
Sorry again, trolls have a way of really teeing me off, I can't stand them and show no niceness towards them. Sorry.  |
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Post by ZGamer on Sept 20, 2004 19:38:41 GMT -5
May the invasion of YLF members begin.
My unimportant thoughts:
This == teh internet. If you want something to truly be yours, don't put it up. I can understand slaving away 'hours' to do junk, and wanting it to be yours and yours only.
If my memory servers me correctly (which often it doesn't), when Yoshiart.com "closed" down the 2nd time, YF offered up some his content under the condition that a copyright for YF was placed on the site. I know YY got some junk, but my memory, and the page, is long since gone. I suppose if the copyright was taken off, then it'd be void. Though, this is only me rambling.
My real question is: Why did YF and YY bring this to 'their' fora? If you believe EI's statement that YLF is a separate from YL, these two fora have nothing to do with these sites' copyright issues.
Edit: YF, if you have a record of the aformetioned file..thingy, could I seess it PLZ KTHXX!
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