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Post by andrevus on Jan 26, 2011 3:34:44 GMT -5
Looks like you guys had fun. Good to see you guys have things to say. It surprises me every time you start talking about reviving the forum, things start running again. Could I join all of you during the next chat? Of course you can! Not only the more the merrier but this topic concerns ALL of us.This topic is open for the ENTIRE Forum! |
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Post by Enrique on Jan 26, 2011 9:35:18 GMT -5
As long as the meeting start isn't adjusted to start before 3 pm EST/2000 GMT on Friday or to Thursday, I should be good to go for the next meeting. I have a few notes based on the log of Tuesday's meeting to share, so maybe Friday we can start by working off them.
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Blitzzoshi
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Post by Blitzzoshi on Jan 26, 2011 20:28:28 GMT -5
Pink on Drupal:
So software-side things are far from finalized, but we have a general sense of where we want to go in terms of community involvement features.
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New Yoshi
I got your bad romance!
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Post by Sakura on Jan 27, 2011 7:48:27 GMT -5
I finished the new logo for the site:  As for Friday's meeting, I more than likely cannot make it because I will be doing stuff. However, I have a friend who can code a lot of web languages, so if you are in need of that, just ask me. I will be uploading the original .psd file somewhere soon...or if you want it, ask via MSN  |
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Post by Moot on Jan 27, 2011 13:10:41 GMT -5
As long as whatever CMS we end up using has some sort of main blog thing and a list of recent events/posts like Drupal does, it probably doesn't matter what we go with. I'd like some form of forum integration, but that isn't an absolute must.
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Post by Moot on Jan 28, 2011 21:24:01 GMT -5
Logs of the latest community shindig are now up for your perusal.Moving from Proboards was one of the main points, but nothing is concrete yet so don't worry about it. Once (if) people have had a read through this I'll throw up a poll asking how many people may or may not be interested in moving boards. These are just ideas at the moment, nothing is happening until there has been more talk on the subject.
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Post by Sanjo on Jan 29, 2011 0:17:57 GMT -5
Hey everyone, so I went ahead and read everything (yes, everything), and thought that I would take down some notes on what my own thought process was as I was reading this. So, here we go!
-Why is it that we always manage to bring up Soul again? Yes, we get it, he sets a bad example! =P
-Teh: I personally was in favor for your contest as soon as you mentioned it. An event like that is exactly what we need. Not only does it apply to Yoshi and our community, but also (like Moot put so well) "people like loot". We can advertise something like this in other places as well and definitely draw attention. If we can manage to find more things that we can hold annually, semi-annually, or even bi-monthly, we will definitely bring in a lot of new members.
-(a quote from teh_yoshi) "We have plenty of artists here that can design a skin(s) for the forums, we have plenty of writers that can help with the roleplaying or whatever, and I'm sure all of us are gamers, so tourneys and other competitions shouldn't hold us back. But what IS holding us back?"
I agree with Zyph and PFY when they say a lack of communication is playing a role in this, but I think it extends deeper. I think its a combination of the lack of communication as well as an unwillingnes to separate ourselves from our everyday lives to pay attention extensively to a forum. A good example would be the Yoshi's Corner Comic that we tried to do, what, a couple years back (holy batman, I feel old)? There were a bunch of us who really wanted to get in on it, and it started off fine, but many of us (including myself) didn't keep with it. Why? Well, Toshi did most of the artwork and storybuilding for that (correct me if I'm wrong), and he had his own webcomic at the time, so it was something that he had already made a part of his life that allowed him to keep going. The rest of us, we weren't used to making webcomics every week, so we lost interest because it was more work than expected.
*takes deep breath*
-@pfy: I'm a little familiar with web development, and I'm diving deeper into computer science (with java and the like). If you want, I can try learning some PHP/MySQL on my own to try to catch up and help out a little if you do want to form a team. A development team would be a good idea to make sure that projects for our migration and in the future actually get done. =P
-(another quote from teh_yoshi) "Why is it that when somebody posts a Yoshi picture every now and then in the art section, no matter how good it is, it'll probably get 2 or 3 responses? Luckily none of those from the original artist."
Here's my response: For me personally, if I see an image and I'm the first one to think about posting on it, sometimes I will and sometimes I won't. When I don't it's more or less because I want to know what others think of it before I post something. It's weird that I think like that sometimes, but I feel like others have been like that as well. Also, when we see multiple response, we really don't want to sound like a broken record player, ya know? I agree that we should just post and reflect on the artwork, regardless of who it's drawn by or how many posts there are on it, but there are a lot of members who aren't great with drawing who can only say (in a nutshell) "It looks great!"
-I'm seeing quite some praise for Anjil! Course, she is also one of the reasons why I found this place like with Zyph. But the whole "idol" thing is another great approach to getting more people at least interested in visiting YC. But is there a way besides just art that we can bring something or someone into the spotlight?....*ding*.... anyone good at flash animating? Random idea, but it could happen.
-*reads teh_yoshi cracking the whip on the "da blitzzo" thread and why nobody has commented in it*...and this is why teh_yoshi has the final say for this website. Seriously, I know we're all excited about the new move and such (and I'm putting myself in this group, too), but I'm glad he has a good grasp on both the present and the future. But he has a point: If we took the time to check up on the forum and see what's going on, we certainly have time to reflect on one person's post. Even if it isn't an immediate response, you can just view it and come back later when you actually have time (which I will be doing from now on).
-(yet another infamous teh_yoshi quote)"this is why I liked red.yoshi. Everyone thought he was annoying because he would post two words in almost every art thread."
red.yoshi was never really annoying in my eyes, so this I find a little surprising to hear. I mean, i do honestly feel that people should go into depth about why they like a picture, even if it's just "it's sooo cute". I remember he was one of the first few people to comment on my writing. He wouldn't say too much, but just enough to keep me going with something. The fact that he made me feel more welcome here at YC should send a hint to everyone else that even small, seemingly annoying posts can make all the difference.
-(random note) OH MAN, I REMEMBER THE SEEING THE SINGING THREAD AT ONE POINT!!! An yes, that did deserve a caps-lock moment and a separate note. But really, it's those types of things that are great ideas and bring us closer, but require us to break down a wall we have have set up in our mind. So bring down the wall!
I honestly started to skim everything after teh_yoshi left the chat, but PFY did bring up something interesting. The board management has been spotty, to say the least, along with many people leaving the site or just forgetting about it and revisiting it when they finally remembered it, and activity has been going down. I thought it was a little odd that teh was against the move at first, but now I agree with him completely. We do need to build a better community before we can make any change. Sure, we can keep planning, but we need to solidify who we are as a community first.
LET'S PROVE TO HIM THAT WE ARE DESERVING OF OUR PLANNED MIGRATION!
And as a side note, I have a few ideas for events. I've seen some competitions where people race through games and record their skype call with the contestants along with their videogame footage. It isn't hard to set up software-wise, and is pretty fun. I can organize something like that if people are interested. There's also the Falcon Punchathon thing I had mentioned (I believe earlier in this chat thread or in the old YC revival thread? Not sure which, anymore).
And with that, I'm going to shut up for now. Feel free to let me know what you think of this, and I'm sorry for the loooong read.
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Post by Matoking on Jan 29, 2011 13:47:32 GMT -5
The first thing we should do is to move the board. Nobody is inspired to liven up our board for now when it's going to be abandoned shortly after to make way for the new one.
The second, we should just gain more activity, and I don't mean just forums, but things like Yoshikaki and such things. We should also focus on something non-art related to expand the community.
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Post by Yoshiken on Jan 30, 2011 12:40:21 GMT -5
I agree with Mato. We shouldn't put off the move. I am up for building a better community, but I just don't see how we can get that to happen at this point by staying as we are. We need to take the initiative and move soon. Change will cause activity to burst. It always does.
Hopefully it will inspire some people to come back too, because we need new/returning members if we want to have a healthy forum again.
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Post by Sanjo on Jan 30, 2011 19:46:05 GMT -5
Wel... after reading everything I wrote in my notes, I guess I'm sort of putting my foot in my mouth, huh?
I guess I should rephrase what I was trying to say: I do think the move is the best option for us, and I do agree that it needs to happen sooner rather than later so that down the road, we don't lose motivation to move. However, I do think that we should work on what we can while we wait for the move to happen. That way, when the move finally happens and we get new members in, we can show them how active we are and keep them coming back. If we make the move first, then we may not be as prepared as we think we are when it comes to the community.
Take this thread, for example. The amount of activity that this thread has brought is huge, especially compared to the amount of activity there was before this thread even started (at least from what I've observed). While we discuss how and where we are going to move our forum, we should also be trying to give the other threads activity like this thread has received.
I'm not sure if I'm making too much sense here, so I apologize if you guys are confused by how I'm looking at this.
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Post by Blitzzoshi on Jan 31, 2011 18:14:58 GMT -5
From what I can gather, teh_yoshi mainly wants a couple things:
1. We remain a Yoshi-themed community. Easy enough, as this is the path we plan to head down.
2. We should not lose sight of activities/events beyond simply performing the move. Personally, I think it'd be best if we accomplish planning and executing this stuff during the move, rather than stay here. By starting off on a fresh, blank page, I think folks would be much more inclined to serve the community.
Also, teh_yoshi wants this place to return to the "good old days." Frankly speaking, I think this is subjective. To me, the "good old days" meant that there were folks who put time and effort into keeping the community close-knit, and the website attractive and enjoyable to visit. We'll probably get much closer to that if we make the move rather than just sit around on ProBoards.
A few pages back, Toshi mentioned something about needing change, because he didn't want to relate to this place in its current state. Honestly, I think he is the voice of the people who have been reluctant to participate here as of late. If anything, we need to include those folks in our revitalization efforts.
Because late notice gets people to act, I shall give late notice (mwa ha ha) on announcing the next meeting time, which is once again on Tuesday, at 3PM EST (GMT - 5). The meeting after will be Friday, at 6PM EST, same as before. Be there or be a dodecahedron.
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Post by teh yoshi on Jan 31, 2011 18:54:40 GMT -5
I've already said that a move would be eventual.
Thing is, not everyone can just work on moving to a new forum, but we're all sitting around wishing so hard for it to happen. Moving isn't going to take a day, so what are we going to do until then? I'm not hindering any of your guys' projects, but I'm only talking about what we should be doing in the meantime.
I don't know why getting the forums more active should ever be a bad thing, either here or in a new place.
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Post by Blitzzoshi on Jan 31, 2011 20:28:07 GMT -5
I think the concern that most folks are expressing is that if we were to start on some new activities over here, there would be some wasted effort as we'd have to deal with the awkwardness of transitioning over to the new site. What about RPs that have already started, for example? It'd be more efficient to work that stuff out while we are in the process of moving.
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Post by Enrique on Jan 31, 2011 22:57:29 GMT -5
Because late notice gets people to act, I shall give late notice (mwa ha ha) on announcing the next meeting time, which is once again on Tuesday, at 3PM EST (GMT - 5). The meeting after will be Friday, at 6PM EST, same as before. Be there or be a dodecahedron. Call me a piece of geometry if you like, or give only 21 hours notice, it doesn't change the fact that my classes run all day Tuesday (and Thursday as well) until Thermodynamics ends at 4:05 pm EST (at least I don't have a shift right afterward like the past two weeks). And that I'll probably have to spend some time afterward deciphering this piece of crap Physical Meteorology homework. In terms of Friday, I could do it, but I'll be late, as I have some NWS stuff going on Friday. --- Regarding an/the one current active RP: as already discussed last shindig, its participants should be in the process of preparing a summary of the RP's progress so far right now. The point in time the new forum is ready for mass-migration, someone post a notice marking the end of progress on the RP on this board, collect the posts from the past day or two, and paste the summary and additional information on the new board. Similar measures could be taken for similar types of projects. I don't think this discussion of moving is doing wonders for project development on this board. People aren't likely to start too many new things here if they know that a move is discussed in the quite near future. In any case, I think you'll find more participation on a new platform looking for a fresh start than an old one with multiple desperate pleas for action. |
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Post by Blitzzoshi on Feb 1, 2011 23:08:28 GMT -5
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Post by Matoking on Feb 1, 2011 23:58:52 GMT -5
I didn't even know about the Tuesday's meeting until it was already over. And Friday is way too late, not staying up to 1AM.
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Post by andrevus on Feb 2, 2011 1:36:18 GMT -5
Sorry i wasn't there last time as soon as i got home i fell on the bed and slept til next day man 5 hours of bull in school + 2 hours of programming like drains my brain totally dry.I'l try to catch fridays but i make no promises.
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Blitzzoshi
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Much gratitude, Anjil.
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Post by Blitzzoshi on Feb 4, 2011 22:41:22 GMT -5
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Blitzzoshi
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Much gratitude, Anjil.
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Post by Blitzzoshi on Feb 6, 2011 19:03:50 GMT -5
Double-posting is okay if it's in the middle of an apocalypse a board move!
Just wanted to let everyone know that we will continue holding meetings twice a week as we have with previous weeks, and at the times previously scheduled:
Tuesdays, 3 PM EST
Fridays, 6 PM EST
We will continue holding these meetings until they are explicitly called off (when we no longer have any reason to hold them, that is).
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Post by Sanjo on Feb 6, 2011 19:40:14 GMT -5
hey, just wanted to say that I thought Friday's meeting was awesome (thanks, Blitzzoshi, for putting the pressure on =P). Also, saying that I will probably not be able to make it to Tuesday's meeting because my laptop charger died, so unless if I manage to grab access to the college's rarely available computers, i will probably not be there. =\
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